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#1021275 - 04/07/15 09:21 AM Ammo selection
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Boy, am I behind the times. First time I've heard of this one.
Thought it might be nice to have a thread dedicated to ammo (handgun, rifle, shotgun) types and selections.
So here is an article I just read.

http://p2t2solutions.com/fbi-finally-decides-on-standard-service-rounds-for-its-use/
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#1021284 - 04/07/15 01:45 PM Re: Ammo selection [Re: SkunkHunter]
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No luck with the link.
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#1021285 - 04/07/15 02:05 PM Re: Ammo selection [Re: SkunkHunter]
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#1021286 - 04/07/15 02:25 PM Re: Ammo selection [Re: SkunkHunter]
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I have no problem with modern ammo in any of the big 3 defensive rounds. 9mm, 40 or 45.

In all honesty the FBI doesn't know very much about Street level Law Enforcement.

Of all the agencies they are one of the least likely to be involved in a shooting.

That wasn't always the case. We learned a whole lot from the FBI shooting on 4/11/86 in Miami. A tragic and painful lesson though.
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#1021305 - 04/07/15 05:49 PM Re: Ammo selection [Re: SkunkHunter]
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YUP, I agree MB. What they should have done is figure that departments have the most officer shootings and then question them about what went right and wrong and then make the determination. The Feds rely on intimidation and reputation mostly and don't really have to "Pull the trigger" as much as their "Studies" would tend to indicate. Just my 2c and I could VERY easily be wrong.
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#1021306 - 04/07/15 05:50 PM Re: Ammo selection [Re: Ray Settanta]
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Originally Posted By: Ray Settanta


Pretty much what I linked to. I clicked on the link and it said that the server was under maintenance.
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#1021307 - 04/07/15 05:55 PM Re: Ammo selection [Re: SkunkHunter]
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And here is the accompanying article they mentioned.

Duty/Defense Carry Ammunition Selection
http://looserounds.com/2014/02/02/dutydefense-carry-ammunition-selection/
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#1021310 - 04/07/15 06:13 PM Re: Ammo selection [Re: SkunkHunter]
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In a nut shell, here is the recommended ammo for Defensive carry.

The Rounds listed bellow in 9mm, .40 Cal and 45 ACP, have been tested extensively and/or meet your carry standard.

9mm

Barnes XPB 115gr HP (35515) such as loaded by Cor-Bon (DPX09115)
Winchester Partition Gold 124gr JHP (RA91P)
Winchester PDX1 124 gr +P JHP (S9MMPDB)
Winchester PDX1 147 gr JHP (S9MMPDB1)
Winchester Ranger-T 124 gr +P JHP (RA9124TP)
Winchester Ranger Bonded 124 gr +P JHP (RA9BA)
Winchester Ranger-T 127gr JHP +P+ (RA9TA)
Winchester Ranger-T 147gr JHP (RA9T)
Winchester Bonded 147gr JHP (RA9B/Q4364)
Speer Gold Dor 124gr JHP
Speer Gold Dot 124gr JHP +P (53617)
Speer Gold Dot 147gr JHP (53619)
Remington Golden Saber 124 gr +P JHP bonded (GSB9MMD)
Remington Golden Saber 147gr JHP (GS9MMC)
Federal Tactical 124gr JHP (LE9T1)
Federal Tactical 135gr JHP +P (LE9T5)
Federal HST 147gr JHP (P9HST2)
Federal HST 124gr JHP +P (P9HST3)

.40 S&W

Barnes all-copper bullets (140 & 155gr) loaded by: Cor-Bon (DPX40140)
Winchester Partition Gold 165gr JHP (RA401P)
Winchester PDX1 165 gr JHP (S40SWPDB)
Winchester PDX1 160 gr JHP (S40SWPDB1)
Winchester Ranger 165gr JHP (RA40TA)
Winchester Ranger 180gr JHP (RA40T)
Winchester Bonded 180gr JHP (Q4355)
Speer Gold Dot 155gr JHP (53961)
Speer Gold Dot 180gr JHP (53962)
Federal Tactical 165gr JHP (LE40T3)
Federal Tactical 180gr JHP (LE40T1)
Federal HST 180gr JHP (P40HST1)
Remington Golden Saber 180 gr JHP (GS40SWB)

.45ACP

Barnes XPB/TAC-XP 185gr HP loaded by:
Cor-Bon (DPX45185)
Taurus (TCB45ACP185HP)

Winchester PDX1 230 gr JHP (S45SWPDb)
Winchester Ranger-T 230gr JHP (RA45T)
Winchester Ranger-T 230gr JHP +P (RA45TP)
Federal Tactical 230gr JHP (LE45T1)
Federal HST 230gr +P JHP (P45HST1)
Federal HST 230gr JHP (P45HST2)
Speer Gold Dot 230gr JHP (23966)
Speer Gold Dot 230gr +P JHP (53969)
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#1021339 - 04/07/15 11:02 PM Re: Ammo selection [Re: SkunkHunter]
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Edited by SkunkHunter (04/07/15 11:26 PM)
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#1021340 - 04/07/15 11:34 PM Re: Ammo selection [Re: SkunkHunter]
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Federal 9mm hst ammo.

SPECIFICATIONS (124 GR/124 GR +P):

Velocity in Feet Per Second
Muzzle: 1150/1200
25: 1095/1136
50: 1049/1083
75: 1010/1039
100: 977/1002

Energy in Foot Pounds
Muzzle: 364/396
25: 330/355
50: 303/323
75: 281/297
100: 263/277


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SPECIFICATIONS (147 GR/147 GR +P):

Velocity in Feet Per Second
Muzzle: 1000/1050
25: 976/1020
50: 953/994
75: 933/970
100: 914/949

Energy in Foot Pounds
Muzzle: 326/360
25: 311/340
50: 297/323
75: 284/307
100: 273/294

REMINGTON GOLDEN SABRE
9mm +P BJHP 124 384 1180

WINCHESTER RANGER T
9mm+P T-Series 127 441 1250


Edited by SkunkHunter (04/09/15 06:33 AM)
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