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#1046899 - 01/21/17 02:10 AM Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light
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I decided to switch up my daily carry pistol and changed a few things up.

Part of what I wanted was a weapon light on a Compact pistol specifically a Glock 19. I also wanted to be able to carry AIWB when I wanted/needed to.

I already have a Surefire X-300 and I usually use it on a full sized pistol. Its rocks solid and works well. The problem with the fullsize light is carrying appendix it wouldn't work as well while sitting, driving etc.

Looking at pistol lights that are in the small sizes, it's pretty slim pickings. I decided to try a Surefire XC-1. Here are the factory specs.

Specifications

Max Output -- White Light 200 lumens
Tactical Runtime** 1.5 hours
Length 2.375 inches
Bezel Diameter .375inches
Weight w/Batteries 1.6 ounces
Batteries 1 AAA

*Runtime until output drops below 10% of maximum output


It looks good on paper the biggest drawback is the price. But it;s really the only one in the game for this size of light that has readily available holsters. I am cheap but I still spent 2 bills on this light.



Factory packaging


Side by side with a Surefire X-300. It is way smaller.



Top view



Front view mounted on the pistol. The picture is a little deceiving. It mounts and is centered equally on the pistol.



Final picture is a side view mounted on the pistol. It doesn't protrude past the barrel. Hopefully, this will allow the lens to stay cleaner when shooting.




I don't really notice the weight on the pistol and it doesn't seem to change the handling at all.

The controls are similar to the x300 series. There is a paddle on each side of the trigger guard and you push down on either one for momentary activation. It's pretty easy with either hand.

I am not in love with the constant on switch. It's a crossbar system that only activates from the left side of the light. There also isn't a positive click when it turns on. That isn't a deal killer for me. I usually shoot two handed and if I am going to have a light on constantly it is probably going to be a two-handed deployment.

The light is only 200 lumen. I remember when a 60 lumen incandescent bulb was the pinnacle of lighting so I'm not super hung up on the numbers. It is a very wide flood beam with no hot spot. Inside my house, it lights the whole room and does a darned good job without being overpowering and I can still see my night sights.

Outside its good for closer distances. It lit up my entire backyard and I have zero worries about not being able to see a threat and identify a weapon in some ones hand. I played around a bit and I would feel very confident that it would function in that capacity out to 25 yards. I played around at 30yards and it was ok. Past that its diminishing returns. You can see, but the wide flood beam doesn't really throw enough light down range.

I compared it to a 250 lumen flashlight with a narrower beam and a 300 lumen flashlight inside. It was brighter than the 300 lumen light and a bit dimmer than the 250 lumen light with a tighter beam.

My overall impression is pretty positive so far. The controls are close enough to what I am used to for monetary and I have no doubt if I need it in a high stress situation I would be able to use it without an issue. The constant switch is going to take a little bit of getting used to.

I really like that it doesn't completely wash out the night sights. it gives me the opportunity to light something up and move without losing my sights/target picture.

The fact that it runs off of AAA batteries is a plus because I can get them darned near anywhere. The battery compartment is threaded and has an o-ring. It should be pretty water resistant. You can use a dime to unscrew the battery plug if you don't have a screwdriver handy.

I am not in love with the mounting screw. I would rather be able to take the light off quicky, like the X-300 and X-300 UA. That isn't a deal breaker but it would be nice. As it stands if you have a dime you can remove or attach it. A bonus is you can change the battery without removing the light from the gun.

So far I like it. I waited until the light came in to order a holster. I didn't want to spend the cash for a very specific holster if I got the light and hated it. I ordered a G-code Incog Shadow eclipse and hopefully, it will be here next week and I can run it through the paces as a system.

If the light holds up to the rigors of shooting It is probably a keeper. I have heard of problems with the lithium battery causing weird/intermittent operation after several hundred rounds. According to internet lore, standard batteries don't tend to have the same problems.







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#1046903 - 01/21/17 08:56 AM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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Did you see any problems with the battery cap. A few on-line reviews stated that it was poorly constructed and could be easily stripped out.

Also there was mention of the "O" ring cracking after a few months, and that when tightening the light to the weapon rail "it doesn't point directly straight, it points downwards." The reviewer didn't mention what weapon model he experienced this problem with, but accompanying pictured with this review indicated a Glock.
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#1046908 - 01/21/17 12:41 PM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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I had heard the same thing about the battery cap. Unless you go full Magilla Gorilla on the battery cap it isn't going to strip out. It is a thread aluminum cap into an aluminum body so If you think you need to torque it down to 100ft pounds you could strip it. It looks like they designed a cap to help prevent that.

I get the distinct impression this light was built specifically for the Glock 19 and works well on the equivalent compact models from S&W and Springfield. I don't think it was really made for a subcompact.

The light mounts and lights inline with the frame/barrel on the G-19 for the usable distances the light was designed for.

I think the reports of misalignment is from people mounting on something it wasn't made for. In their defense, surefire really doesn't make it known that this is a niche light.

The instructional pamphlet mentions specifically how to mount eh light and install the battery and it falls in line with most instructions, I have seen from other manufacturers such as Aimpoint, Eotech and Trijicon. People like to put way too much torque on firearms scews than they really need.
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#1046912 - 01/21/17 02:50 PM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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Great review from someone who knows that of which they speak. But as you say it would be nice if it was about a hundred bucks or so less expensive.
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#1046916 - 01/21/17 05:11 PM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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As I sort of scanned some info on this light I kept noticing how perfect this light looked on the G19. I figured it had to be made specifically for the G19 even though no information ever said it was. But it makes since to build something for specifically a model that is extremely popular. They should sell plenty of lights even at $200 a pop.

Looks like a good purchase to me.
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#1046919 - 01/21/17 06:38 PM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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Spectacular table top review. Thank you for taking time to prepare it.

The size of the light is outstanding.

Please continue to post reviews as you use the light.
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#1046920 - 01/21/17 06:43 PM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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My thoughts regarding lumens....

I actually prefer less in a handgun mounted light. My use for a handgun (I'm not chasing perps down dark alleys) means 10 yards or less. Most likely my HG would be used in my house. I have a couple of 500 lumen lights and the back splash is blinding. The higher lumens are great on a rifle, but I'll take a broad throw low lumen WML for a handgun.

I too remember 60L incandescent. In fact I recently sold my last 6P.
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#1046921 - 01/21/17 06:51 PM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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That's funny. the 6p and 6r were exactly what I was thinking of when I made that comment. I still have one sitting on my workbench.
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#1046922 - 01/21/17 07:46 PM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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They were TOP O' THE LINE back when they first came out. Compared to today's lights ....they are lacking, haha.
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#1046925 - 01/22/17 12:56 AM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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MB, the reason I was so interested in your review is because the wife has been asking me what I want for my upcoming birthday...
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#1046926 - 01/22/17 01:05 AM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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I would have been pretty happy to receive this as a gift.

I researched the snot out of it before I plunked down the cash for it.

I am hoping it holds up against real world use. I tend to practice with anything I carry so time will tell.
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#1047044 - 01/27/17 03:53 PM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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The size of this light (and battery type) makes it very appealing to me for civ CCW.

Durability probably isn't as paramount as a duty weapon (or night stand gun). As long as it'll last a couple of mags - it'll probably suffice for 85% of civilians.

SureFire typically makes a solid product (I own and have owned many thousands of dollars worth of their lights).

I'll be watching this thread. Please post feedback.
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#1047465 - 02/14/17 10:38 PM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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I spent 8 hours at the range today. I put a few rounds through this setup today using several different types of ammo.

It ran like a champ with Golden Sabre Hollow Points, Remington, and Speer FMJ all 124 grain.

I didn't have any malfunctions with the pistol. The battery compartment and the set screw for the light stayed nice and tight.

I was surprised that the lens on the light was carbon free after shooting. The lights sets nearly even with the barrel and the lens itself is slightly inset. I am impressed by the lack of carbon.

The pistols draws and presents just fine from the holster and I didn't notice the light at all when shooting. I didn't slow me down.

Bonus was shooting steel at 150, 200 and 300 yards with a pistol.
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#1047466 - 02/14/17 10:51 PM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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300 yards with a pistol? Now that's just showing off.

Did you have a 16" barrel on that pistol?
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#1047467 - 02/14/17 11:25 PM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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LOL, Nope a stock G-22. I couldn't do 300 standing but I managed to hit it braced at 300. 1 out of 5 rounds at 300 braced. I had to guestimate elevation. I managed to stay centered but kept hitting the base.

I did alot better braced on the 200 and 150 yard targets.

To be honest I was very surprised to have actually made any hits at all.

Trying new stuff and testing boundaries. I would never try those shots in the real world with a pistol.
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#1047471 - 02/15/17 02:04 AM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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I guess you're not Elmer Keith then. wink Of course he DID use a 44Mag, eventually. smile
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#1047476 - 02/15/17 11:09 AM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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LOL, I'm definitely not Elmer Keith. I don't think I'll be famous for trick shots with a pistol anytime soon. Your average Bullseye shooter is probably far more accurate than I am.

I was in an instructor development class yesterday. I got lumped into the "A" team group and they were trying to challenge us. Harder shots to help us with coaching.
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#1047479 - 02/15/17 05:03 PM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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Which "A TEAM" member were you? smile
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#1047481 - 02/16/17 12:55 AM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: SkunkHunter]
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Whichever one was a little crazy.
laugh
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#1047483 - 02/16/17 01:54 AM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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Haha, that could have been any of them! But would probably be Murdock (he is the one they "Liberated" from the loonie bin). smile
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#1047485 - 02/16/17 06:40 AM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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A long time ago, a group of us were shooting skeet in an old hayfield. One of the guys noticed my S&W 622 on my hip and bet me $20 that I couldn't break a clay pigeon at 100 yards.
I took his bet. We sat one on a hay bale about 100 yards out, and I broke it on the third shot. laugh

I tried some long range pistol shooting, but never 300 yards.
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#1047499 - 02/17/17 05:53 PM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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300 is serious range. Most I have ever shot with a pistol is 100 and it was not pretty.
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#1047502 - 02/18/17 01:10 AM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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We used to have a deputy that would shoot gallon milk jugs at 100 yards with a 45acp. Oh did I mention he spent a few years in the Marines as an MP.
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#1047602 - 02/24/17 01:38 AM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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Back on topic.

I took the setup out for another nice run. This time it was running timed drills from concealment and doing some moving and shooting.

Then again at night at our outdoor range.

I have to say for CCW this thing absolutely rocks. No issues with being slowed down drawing and nothing noticeable in how the pistol handles and zero malfunctions.

At 25 yards there is plenty of light to ID targets and any threats. Shoot/no shoot targets weren't a problem.

There was actually a lot more light spill than I had noticed before. I was able to light up a huge area with plenty of light for working.

Still no issues with carbon build up on the lens. Which makes me pretty happy.

I didn't mess with the constant on but the rocker switch/momentary worked well for my needs. Moving tagging the target with light engaging and moving again.

The only thing that I will need to test is durability.

I am pretty pleased with the performance so far. Aside from the price I think its a great buy.
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#1047606 - 02/24/17 02:39 AM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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Thanks for the additional info MB. HOPEFULLY the price will get more reasonable and that will allow them to sell more.
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#1050945 - 09/07/17 07:57 AM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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Started looking at weapon lights so I can move my present light TLR-1 to a long gun and get one for my Beretta storm.
I looked up this thread and was wondering how it did/is holding up?
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#1050951 - 09/07/17 12:12 PM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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Randy,
Check your PMs.
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#1050958 - 09/07/17 02:32 PM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: Lord Mortdecai]
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Randy,
Check your PMs.

I love this place. This forum is a rare one.
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#1050969 - 09/08/17 02:32 AM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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DANG, didn't know I had PMs! ooo grin
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#1051059 - 09/10/17 09:17 PM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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Just saw this. It's holding up well. It does have one quirk. If you don't use a lithium battery it burns through it sitting in the holster.

Or I got a bad batch of batteries.

I will say that if You already have a TLR-1 I would buy another. If you already have holsters for it save some cash. The TLR is brighter and has a better battery life.

The XC-1 is just small.
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#1051062 - 09/11/17 08:42 AM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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Well since I wrote that I made a deal for a TLR3. Well below the going internet prices and I am gonna put it on the Beretta pistol for a house light and move the TLR-1s to something else. And thank you for the information MB.
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#1051066 - 09/11/17 03:49 PM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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Sounds like you got a much better deal.
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#1051069 - 09/11/17 09:17 PM Re: Surefire XC-1 Weapon Light [Re: MonkeyBomb]
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I think so. But it not It's got a 3x money back guarantee! wink
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