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Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: ronmann] #287055 05/04/09 01:50 AM
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Send it to Vic. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />After you get it back- get an Apex Pro sharpener and a good strop.Did the heat affect the temper ? Comments ? Best of luck with it-let us know.


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Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: Horn Dog] #287056 05/04/09 02:04 AM
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Well, at least the steel is not discolored, so maybe it will be ok.


Good point Vic.... I can't really tell from the pics, but coloration change is a good indicator of "Possible" damage. Not all color change is severe. But, NO color change is usually very good.

Did you see any glowing red when grinding? (***Not always easy to see in bright lit areas!)

Was/Is there any color change to the blade: yellow, blue, black?

It MAY very well BE O.K..... I don't want to cause unjustified alarm. It really comes down to HOW you did the grinding.


I am assuming you used a benchtop grinder with high speeds... If you kept the blade moving across the wheel at a good pace and kept the blade cool by dunking or by patience between passes, it might be fine, if just a bit chewed up.

I tried to be clear, but if you know what you are doing (or maybe by pure luck <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> ), you can grind with a high speed grinder and likely not cause any damage.

My point is that that type of grinder is MUCH more likely to cause temper damage if used wrong.

When I refer to Benchtop grinder, this is what is commonly considered a Benchtop grinder (and is HIGH speed) - It is "generally" a VERY poor tool for working with fine grade quality steel such as knives and it CAN create heat VERY fast.:

[Linked Image from rds.yahoo.com]


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This is an angle grinder (also VERY High speed and also cabable of VERY fast creation of heat. - But, a "Hand" held tool. Great tool for demo and construction grade steel projects... in many cases. It is often used to "Cut" through steel, rebar, bolts or many similar applications - or grind them down. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> - But, NOT for knives or quality steel!):

[Linked Image from rds.yahoo.com]



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This is actually a slow speed stone wheel grinder specifically designed for sharpening (But, this Delta tool is NOT very good (NOT worth a FLIP actually! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbdn.gif" alt="" /> and I wouldn't recommend - I have one! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbdn.gif" alt="" />) - It is about a $40 tool. For the same money, you can buy a Harbor Freight or similar 30"x1" belt sander that will do WAY more for Way more projects and WAY better for sharpening with the right belts (or even with cheap belts for that matter!) - My point being: "Don't waste your money on this!":

[Linked Image from rds.yahoo.com]



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Anyway, again, it is possible that if there is damage that it might just be very Minor damage which can be ground off (????) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />


It is likely very hard for any of us to determine damage if any from the pictures. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />



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Last edited by KnifeGuy; 05/04/09 02:08 AM.

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Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: KnifeGuy] #287057 05/04/09 02:11 AM
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I'll fix it if ya like


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Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: fastcamo] #287058 05/04/09 03:03 AM
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I learned a long time ago to stay away from the grinders.

If it were my SOD I would send to Vic and let him work it over.


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Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: sumoj275] #287059 05/04/09 03:39 AM
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Boots here to have balls, good for you. Just let Uncle Vic or one of the other dogs walk you through the rest of the way.


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Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: KnifeGuy] #287060 05/04/09 07:03 AM
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Good Lordy...Hope you aren't planning to sell that one. I've only done that to a machette once....remember...you can always take off more later , but you CAN't put more metal back. Every time you sharpen(to a degree)you REMOVE metal.I know its not a collectors piece , but OUCH!!


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Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: archangel] #287061 05/04/09 12:04 PM
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Yeah my camera is not very good.


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Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: Boots] #287062 05/04/09 12:26 PM
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also don't get so close to the object your taking a picture of.
Step back and use the zoom to get a clearer shot, use a tripod or something to help keep your camera/arm still, you should have better/clearer results.


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Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: KnifeGuy] #287063 05/04/09 12:33 PM
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Well, for using a stone grinding wheel it doesn't look too bad! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />

That SoD took a real beating Boots! Maybe if you started on a smaller blade and worked up to the Son Of Dog Father. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

The grind line is well different to say the least. If it was mine I would send a P.M. to Horn Dog and see if he wouldn't mind giving it a more beveled edge and smoothing out the grind line. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Boots I'll be honest with you,I am glad it is not mine. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sad.gif" alt="" />

Peace.


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Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: Prince of Peace] #287064 05/04/09 08:11 PM
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Thank god there are those less paranoid than myself so that I may learn my wife would kick my [censored] if she knew how much I spent on a knife and then improved it. My wife is extremely patient with guns/knives. Grant us the serenity and courage to change the things we can. Especially if it is ourselves. Send that baby to someone who'll treat her right then go use that puppy in the field.

Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: KnifeGuy] #287065 05/04/09 08:28 PM
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Does that now have the highly sought after super "penetrator" tip?




Nice

Re: I think I killed my SOD [Re: ghost57] #287066 05/04/09 08:38 PM
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Oh man I blame Vic for making it look easy enough for anyone to do !!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />

I once gave my MOD 4 Survival knife to a buddy to sharpen and he tried using a bench grinder and messed it up similar to yours, as luck would have it the temper didn't appear affected and it still keeps a great edge but it took me many hours of work with the wet and dry to fix it and make it look nice !!!!!

I future I'd stick to using sharpening stones and wet and dry paper, it may take a lot longer but ya can't mess up in seconds like you can with a grinder ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

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