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Re: Kid Nevada's Abuse Knife Test of the SOD [Re: MustardMan] #291331 05/24/09 12:23 AM
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fair enough, in a SHTF situ ANYBODY would grab the nearest tool and chop, pry, smash etc......even i would. Tools can be replaced, lives cannnot. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />

I still understand Gideon's view though, its very close to my own. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

like i said, thanks for sacrificing your own SOD <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Kid Nevada's Abuse Knife Test of the SOD [Re: Bushman5] #291332 05/24/09 12:34 AM
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Nice test...Thanks for the great pics. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Are you going to show how the other knives faired?


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Re: Kid Nevada's Abuse Knife Test of the SOD [Re: MustardMan] #291333 05/24/09 12:42 AM
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Thanks, MustardMan. My SOD was obviously heavily damaged during the testing, along with a number of other knives (almost 20). But I now know FOR SURE which ones I can rely on when the poop hit the fan. And out here, it’s not if the poop hit the fan, it’s when.

You can buy a fancy knife that will fail when you need it, or a tough knife that won’t, all for about the same price. So where’s the decision? I’m at a loss to explain this.

Re: Kid Nevada's Abuse Knife Test of the SOD [Re: KidNevada] #291334 05/24/09 12:47 AM
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How was your test subject SOD "destroyed", if using it as a stone chisel didn't do the job? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Re: Kid Nevada's Abuse Knife Test of the SOD [Re: Bushman5] #291335 05/24/09 12:58 AM
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RE: "fair enough, in a SHTF situ ANYBODY would grab the nearest tool and chop, pry, smash etc......even i would. Tools can be replaced, lives cannnot."


When down in an abandoned mine, what "nearest tool"? Hint: it's on your belt.

Re: Kid Nevada's Abuse Knife Test of the SOD [Re: KidNevada] #291336 05/24/09 01:04 AM
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Yea, since i never use my knives, I guess Im out on a limb by claiming SR77's unmatched toughness.

WAIT.

I was right!!!! Maybe all those claims were just me speculating and not using my knives.... Im a soldier, but I dont use my knives, I just gloat on SY forums from ZERO experience, let me tell you. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Kid Nevada's Abuse Knife Test of the SOD [Re: reconseed] #291337 05/24/09 01:10 AM
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Good question, Momaw. It wasn't destroyed, and in fact I was out trimming branches with it the other day. But I wouldn't use it in critical situations anymore, given the abuse it's taken and the potential for hidden damage.

And ReC0n SEED, you were right!!! SR-77 is a beast!

Re: Kid Nevada's Abuse Knife Test of the SOD [Re: KidNevada] #291338 05/24/09 01:10 AM
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RE: "fair enough, in a SHTF situ ANYBODY would grab the nearest tool and chop, pry, smash etc......even i would. Tools can be replaced, lives cannnot."


When down in an abandoned mine, what "nearest tool"? Hint: it's on your belt.

thats what i meant! i just wouldn't do it if i did'nt have too

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Re: Kid Nevada's Abuse Knife Test of the SOD [Re: KidNevada] #291339 05/24/09 01:35 AM
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True story, particularly for someone with a picture of them carrying a child:

Some buddies and I were up in Colorado’s gold country, back in the forest. Kid runs up, frantic. His friend’s trapped and needs help. Where? In an old mine. Timber shifted while they were exploring, and it’s still slowly moving as the trapped kid tries to hold it. Plus, there’s a large bolt just above the kid’s chest. It has to come off NOW! You’re it.

You can lecture that kid all you want. You can discuss how knives shouldn’t be abused, take care of your knife so it’ll take care of you. You can ponder what you coulda, woulda, shoulda brought. But the only thing that matters is the toughness of the trail knives you’re carrying. Because you and your buddies are about to go down into an abandoned mine, bend away a thick bolt by hammering on it, and pry a heavy timber off a scared boy, all with your trail knives. Some of the knives failed, while others succeeded. Which are you carrying?

I guess your perspective depends on how much time you spend out deep. If going out deep means going to the county campground, no problem. But I’m often not only out of cell phone range, but out of range of the U.S. Central Nevada Radio Network. What you carry cannot fail. It must be hard tested.

First off all, I can find thousands of examples where people could have been rescued had they had a certain tool and didn’t. That’s life. I wasn’t there but can think of many more efficient items/tools to use to support timber pressing down on someone or to bend away a bolt about to pierce someone's body. In fact, using my knife that forcefully that close to someone’s body would probably be my last choice. Now, I'm sure you go "deep" often and constantly. But I doubt whether you've been "deeper" than George Washington Sears or some of the other great frontiersmen, and I can guarantee you they never tested a knife by chopping rock. They treated their knives with great care.

Lastly - these days I do go to the “county campground” and I don’t really know what “deep” means, but I haven’t always lived in New Jersey - I grew up in Africa and used to hunt and travel with my dad in places like the far north of Namibia, (Owamboland, the Caprivi strip) and many other places in Botswana, Lesotho etc. since I was 10, so it’s not as if I’ve never seen a tree or a bush.

Again, do what suits you but I will say once more that this is not what a knife was designed for and when people use things beyond there design capabilities accidents will happen.

Nuff said.

Re: Kid Nevada's Abuse Knife Test of the SOD [Re: Gideon] #291340 05/24/09 01:41 AM
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Fair enough. Thanks for your considered imput.

Re: Kid Nevada's Abuse Knife Test of the SOD [Re: KidNevada] #291341 05/24/09 01:46 AM
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The Seed laughs at these puny tests !!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Re: Kid Nevada's Abuse Knife Test of the SOD [Re: KidNevada] #291342 05/24/09 01:47 AM
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Good to see the SOD can withstand that much abuse. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> The more I read about the SOD the more respect it gets...


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