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09/24/06 02:17 PM
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If Scrap Yard knives are going to be made with different steels like INFI and SR101 will the knives have the same heat treatment as Busse and SwampRats?
If so will the SR101 have a differential or thu-heat treatment?
"I want a 10 1/2" long X 2 1/4" wide X 5/16" thick Bowie"
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[Re: TBAUGH7]
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09/24/06 03:54 PM
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Sounds like a great time for Dan or Patti to weigh-in!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Private Klink]
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09/24/06 04:50 PM
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I think they are afraid of the scale <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Last edited by Gravelface; 09/24/06 04:50 PM.
EMail if you have a spare 460!!!!
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[Re: Gravelface]
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09/24/06 05:14 PM
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Rat Finkenstein
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I doubt Jerry will sabotage the HT for the newest addition to the Busse Company family
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Rat Finkenstein]
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09/24/06 05:29 PM
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I did't think they would sabotage it, just wondering if they were cutting ANY corners ? or will this be a "Busse" knife in disguise.
"I want a 10 1/2" long X 2 1/4" wide X 5/16" thick Bowie"
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: TBAUGH7]
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09/24/06 05:37 PM
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well, it wouldn't even be INFI without the special heat treat.
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[Re: Rat Finkenstein]
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09/24/06 06:20 PM
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I'm sure whatever the heat treat...it WORKS! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
WOOF!
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[Re: cgeyer]
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09/24/06 09:01 PM
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I can't wait for an oppertunity to test their HT'd S-7!
EMail if you have a spare 460!!!!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Rat Finkenstein]
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09/24/06 09:09 PM
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Well said, RF ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> The HT is what helps make Infi so indestructable ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: TBAUGH7]
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09/25/06 09:19 PM
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If Scrap Yard knives are going to be made with different steels like INFI and SR101 will the knives have the same heat treatment as Busse and SwampRats?
If so will the SR101 have a differential or thu-heat treatment? All Scrap Yard knives will be powered by Busse Combat's legendary heat-treating protocals which include, but are not limited to, their propietary use of martempering, interrupted quenches, and extensive use of deep cryogenic cycling. In other words, you will get more bang for your buck with Scrap Yard than any other knife on the market! Dan "The Dumpster Man" Busse
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[Re: Dumpster Dan]
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09/25/06 10:19 PM
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We need a 5/16" (or thicker) SR-77 BOWIE!!! (Written back in early '07 -- Regulator Premonition?)
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[Re: sr77dogg]
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09/25/06 10:48 PM
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SWEET..... Now lets bring on a 12" long X 5/16" thick X 2" wide HUNK of Busse heat treated SR77 high impact tool steel <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" />, so I can beat the #@*& out of.
I have a dead oak tree in my back yard I need to take down.
"I want a 10 1/2" long X 2 1/4" wide X 5/16" thick Bowie"
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: TBAUGH7]
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09/25/06 10:51 PM
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I hear ya. Did you get your vote in?
Dan
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[Re: Dumpster Dan]
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09/25/06 10:54 PM
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I voted...it is up to you to do the right thing and give us the Bowie!
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[Re: Gravelface]
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09/25/06 11:00 PM
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Dumpster Dan
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Votes are running tight with the Infi
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[Re: Gravelface]
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09/25/06 11:00 PM
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Yes sir I did..... and it was a BIG vote <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
"I want a 10 1/2" long X 2 1/4" wide X 5/16" thick Bowie"
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Dumpster Dan]
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09/25/06 11:02 PM
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If Scrap Yard knives are going to be made with different steels like INFI and SR101 will the knives have the same heat treatment as Busse and SwampRats?
If so will the SR101 have a differential or thu-heat treatment? All Scrap Yard knives will be powered by Busse Combat's legendary heat-treating protocals which include, but are not limited to, their propietary use of martempering, interrupted quenches, and extensive use of deep cryogenic cycling. In other words, you will get more bang for your buck with Scrap Yard than any other knife on the market! Dan "The Dumpster Man" Busse I really like this! Thanks Dan <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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09/25/06 11:04 PM
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I did..... and it was a BIG vote <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> You Da Man !
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09/25/06 11:04 PM
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You bet. I was just sorry that I could not get back to you dogs sooner. Too much time in the dumspter looking for a way to bring you great knives at great prices
Dan
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09/25/06 11:09 PM
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You bet. I was just sorry that I could not get back to you dogs sooner. Too much time in the dumspter looking for a way to bring you great knives at great prices
Dan Well you are starting out great Dan, I really like the Scrapper 6 LE. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Keep it up! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />
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09/25/06 11:13 PM
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I do too, now I gotta get the CG version...with a Penetrator tip......if possible...
EMail if you have a spare 460!!!!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Dumpster Dan]
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09/25/06 11:14 PM
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OH... can we get it in tan, green, or day glow orange any thing to help me find it when I sit it down in the woods <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />. I have too many black knives.
"I want a 10 1/2" long X 2 1/4" wide X 5/16" thick Bowie"
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[Re: TBAUGH7]
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09/25/06 11:16 PM
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day glow <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />. I have too many black knives. You have something against Italians?! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
EMail if you have a spare 460!!!!
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[Re: Rich]
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09/25/06 11:18 PM
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You bet. I was just sorry that I could not get back to you dogs sooner. Too much time in the dumspter looking for a way to bring you great knives at great prices
Dan Well you are starting out great Dan, I really like the Scrapper 6 LE. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Keep it up! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> Thanks for the kind words. I am on a mission
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[Re: Dumpster Dan]
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09/26/06 12:23 AM
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I hope that mission is the BOWIE!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> The Scrapper is a great knife by the way! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Good night Mrs. B, wherever you are!
Long Live the Brotherhood of the Yard!
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09/26/06 04:04 AM
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INFI! INFI! INFI! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
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09/26/06 09:42 AM
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Andy - how about an Infi bowie at Yard prices ?!? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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09/26/06 02:04 PM
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Gotta love compromises...INFI chopper? I'm in! WOOF! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
WOOF!
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[Re: cgeyer]
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09/26/06 09:37 PM
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Scrap Yard Chopper.....SR-77
EMail if you have a spare 460!!!!
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09/26/06 10:09 PM
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SR77 & Infi BOWIES - the best of BOTH worlds!
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09/26/06 10:14 PM
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I still just want the Sr77 Chopper...Got the InFi chopper on its way.
EMail if you have a spare 460!!!!
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09/27/06 01:43 AM
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I still just want the Sr77 Chopper...Got the InFi chopper on its way. I hear ya. the trouble is that INFI is in such high demand it is like hens teeth to find in the Busse Combat Compound, but I have not stopped looking. I do think if we come out with a Sr77 Chopper (dependant on the voting) we might give those hogs a run for their money. In fact, in Texas they use Dogs to hunt Hogs, I have even heard they use Rats for bait. Dan "The Dumpster Man" Busse
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09/27/06 02:00 AM
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Dan - I'll bet that those SR77 BOWIES will sell like hotcakes !
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09/27/06 03:10 PM
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Did I mention that I think the BOWIE should be the next model released ?!? Well, it SHOULD !
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Good night Mrs. B, wherever you are!
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09/27/06 04:03 PM
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09/27/06 04:48 PM
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What they said! Bowie/Chopper...Dan, you have a mission...now go forth and bring the Chopper back with you!
EMail if you have a spare 460!!!!
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09/27/06 05:24 PM
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We need both knives out Dan... To misquote from Wayne's World 2 "make them and they will sell"!!
I think I'm going to have to go see a Texas 'Hog' hunt some day, poor little down-troden Rats.. WOOOF!
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09/27/06 07:13 PM
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Dan - it's international - the BOWIE should be the next model released !
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09/27/06 07:54 PM
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See! Though the EDCers may have the electorial vote.....The BOWIE rules the popular vote!!!!
EMail if you have a spare 460!!!!
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09/27/06 08:01 PM
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Junk Yard Dog #1
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Good night Mrs. B, wherever you are!
Long Live the Brotherhood of the Yard!
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09/27/06 08:03 PM
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EMail if you have a spare 460!!!!
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09/27/06 09:06 PM
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American style? Next stop the Supreme Court? (only joking!)
JYD #3 Poor, but still dreaming of a sage and black SOD CG...
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09/27/06 09:06 PM
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Whoa GF I get the feeling you'd like the bowie next!
JYD #3 Poor, but still dreaming of a sage and black SOD CG...
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[Re: Gravelface]
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09/27/06 10:24 PM
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Dumpster Dan]
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09/27/06 11:00 PM
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See how if you look at it upside down, it sort of resembles a Dogs head! How about a Bowie!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Gravelface]
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09/28/06 01:38 AM
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GF - that is really creative. Just for that, I think it should be the BOWIE next ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Private Klink]
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09/28/06 07:06 PM
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I sure hope Dan gets the idea that we think the BOWIE should be next!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Private Klink]
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09/28/06 07:27 PM
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I believe he is onto us! And deep inside he wants it too, he is just teasing all the Hogs and Piglets!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Gravelface]
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09/28/06 09:43 PM
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An SR-77 Bowie will most likely be tougher than anything but an S5 bowie; especially if stabilized with an interupted quench and martemper. After we get the mudder-gripped INFI skinners, I can't wait!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: thombrogan]
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09/28/06 09:46 PM
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Oh you savage! Lets get the Bowie and test it!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: thombrogan]
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09/28/06 09:47 PM
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Hello and Welcome Thom ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Good to see you here, though the BOWIE should be first! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> Your knowledge of metallurgy will be greatly appreciated here. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: thombrogan]
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09/28/06 09:51 PM
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An SR-77 Bowie will most likely be tougher than anything but an S5 bowie; especially if stabilized with an interupted quench and martemper. After we get the mudder-gripped INFI skinners, I can't wait! Where do you find information like that?
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Gravelface]
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09/28/06 11:45 PM
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GF - If you are unfamiliar with Thom, he posts a lot at the Swamp. He knows a lot concerning metallurgy and is a sharp guy.
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Private Klink]
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09/29/06 12:29 AM
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Well lets get some S-5 in here!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Gravelface]
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09/29/06 03:06 AM
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Dan - did you see that ? I don't know much about metallurgy, but maybe worth checking into for future runs ?
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Private Klink]
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09/29/06 01:04 PM
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Dan, do you need help looking for scrap! I have a partial rail yard near my home.........just a thought!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Gravelface]
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09/29/06 01:31 PM
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Hey I am game for anything as long as we can meet the performance requirements. The RR usally uses junk steel but its always worth a look.
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Dumpster Dan]
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09/29/06 03:26 PM
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Good move GF ! Get Dan over there checking out the RR steel, then really work on him and the BOWIE next. Brilliant!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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09/29/06 05:50 PM
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If I could find some decent scrap steel...I would! O where O where can that Bowie be......but if they are now talking about what is next...do they already have them finished...or will they start making them after the vote? DAN....we need your input!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Gravelface]
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09/29/06 07:01 PM
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Maybe he fell in the dumpster and nobody found him yet !?!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Private Klink]
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09/30/06 01:38 AM
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I hope there is some good steel in that dumpster!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Gravelface]
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09/30/06 02:06 AM
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If I could find some decent scrap steel...I would! O where O where can that Bowie be......but if they are now talking about what is next...do they already have them finished...or will they start making them after the vote? DAN....we need your input! We will begin building after the vote. Dan
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Dumpster Dan]
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09/30/06 09:43 AM
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When does the vote close though?
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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09/30/06 06:25 PM
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When the Bowie pulls ahead!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Gravelface]
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09/30/06 07:22 PM
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BOWIE BOWIE BOWIE!!! And the INFI shorty, but mainly the BOWIE!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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09/30/06 07:59 PM
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Paul, I think you're right - the BOWIE should be next, followed by the Infi mudder. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" /> And since the DOGS are more honest than the HOGS concerning voting, it is only right that the BOWIE be the next release. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Private Klink]
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09/30/06 08:03 PM
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Hehe, 'dogmocracy' in action, BOWIE next with maybe the shorty too...
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/01/06 12:53 AM
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Do a combo package....with a sheath with the Bowie and the mudder piggy backing on it!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/01/06 01:53 AM
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/01/06 10:10 AM
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I'm with GK and PK on that, nice!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/01/06 10:11 AM
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I'm a mutt!!! YES! So much better than a pooch!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/01/06 10:47 AM
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Now your opinion counts Paul! Dan, what kind of heat will Scrap Yard knives be able to withstand without lossing their temper. For cases like blueing them.....
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/01/06 03:55 PM
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Where do you stick the thermometer GF? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/01/06 04:01 PM
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Stick a thermometer anywhere unfortunate on a 'dog it'll turn round and bite your arm off!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/05/06 05:42 PM
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Paul - I was referring to a BLADE !!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Besides, a dog won't likely turn on its loving Master - like Dan ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/06/06 09:31 PM
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if you ever need someone to hold the flashlight for ya Dan,or spell you off for a back stretch,gimme a holler!I'll be yer bin buddy!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Gravelface]
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10/07/06 01:42 AM
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Where do you find information like that? Go to site of companies that make and sell steel. Crucible Services is a good one (they make a few types of S7, some S5, and all of those weird wonder steels that won't take as thin of an edge or as tough of a beating as S7). Timken Latrobe and Diehl Steel have good info, too.
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: thombrogan]
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10/07/06 12:20 PM
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Thanks again Thom - your expertise is genuinely appreciated !
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/07/06 08:53 PM
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Thanks for the kind words, Tom. I'm having trouble with acclimating my etes to this forum's color setup. Guess if I were color-blind like the better dogs, it'd be no thaing.
So the Uber-Bowie is Dan and Patty's next creation? That's too cool. If I weren't so pigheaded, I'd feel shame for voting for the INFI mudder.
Now to make an IWB kydex sheath so I may EDC a Scrap Yard Knives bowie!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: thombrogan]
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10/07/06 09:22 PM
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Hey Thom! I now have a Scrapper and I didn't even have to move to Canada! Good to see you in the pound..
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Thanks for the kind words, Tom. I'm having trouble with acclimating my etes to this forum's color setup. Guess if I were color-blind like the better dogs, it'd be no thaing. Hi Thom, In your display preferences, you can select a different skin for the forum. If that doesn't help, send me a PM and let me know. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/08/06 01:43 AM
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I now have a Scrapper and I didn't even have to move to Canada! The USA is still open. We even have a few states where it's easy to acquire automatic weapons (machine guns). Come on over! And congrats on your Scrapper!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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In your display preferences, you can select a different skin for the forum. If that doesn't help, send me a PM and let me know. Thanks, Trash Can! That'll make things mucho nicer!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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So are Scrap Yard knives all differentially tempered, or are they thru-tempered?
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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Guessing through-hardened. Plain-Jane S7 is extremely tough; SR-77 should be even tougher (from the lil buzzwords Dumpster Dan drops, it should be comparable to Angelsword's heat-treatment results of S7).
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: thombrogan]
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10/08/06 09:37 PM
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Good question Stealther! I was getting round to asking that..
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/08/06 10:14 PM
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Hmm, Thom any thoughts on this equation, "thru hardening + prying = warranty claim" . Forgive the bad joke but.. can you safely (and possibly unsafely) pry with these?? I don't go out of my way to wreck knives but sometimes it (prying) is a task that needs doing...
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10/08/06 11:21 PM
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You're not giving the steel enough credit. Weaker steels, such as 5160 and INFI, can pry all day and night. So can regular S7 and through-hardened SR-101. Most of what we've been told about differential tempers is b.s. Dan's Sister-in-law's company differentially tempers some of their SR-101 knives 'just in case' as SR-101 is extremely strong, but INFI is stronger and 5160 can be stronger. Both S7 (weaker than SR-77) and SR-101 can chop into galvanized steel with barely any trouble (microchips on the edges which are fixed in under 5 minutes with a pocket-sized diamond paddle or in under a minute with a belt sander... ...guess how I know. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> ). The reason Dan and Patti offer their warranty is because they know their knives can take strenuous and creative abuse. When your Scrapper 6 arrives, you'll realize (oh yeah, this is what knives are supposed to do.
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: thombrogan]
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10/09/06 11:20 AM
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Thom, who would you recommend that does make stong 5160?
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Gravelface]
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10/09/06 03:26 PM
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Paul the Brit'
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Thanks Thom, good to get your input on that one! I love the idea that INFI is weaker than the sr77, that is a nice comforting concept! How's sr77's corrosion resistance compared to INFI and similar high end steel? I now have my Scrapper, have sharpened it up nicely and plan to start abusing it.. I mean 'using' it soon!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Paul the Brit']
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10/09/06 05:15 PM
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NO...I think you had it right the first time!...Or, when are you going to take that dog out for some exercise!?
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Gravelface]
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10/09/06 07:09 PM
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Thom, who would you recommend that does make stong 5160? Himalayan Import khuk's are pretty close to 5160(5150 maybe?) and are pretty tough.
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: BlondieStomp]
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10/09/06 08:08 PM
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Paul the Brit'
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GF my little Scrapper ate an old plank over the weekend, he finished it off today during sharpening... I'll take him for a walk this week (chores and wife permitting) and beat the brown stuff out of the countryside (at least little non environmentally damaging bits anyway!!).
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Gravelface]
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10/09/06 11:20 PM
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who would you recommend that does make stong 5160? One hint: You have two of his RD-9's. There are some swordmakers out there, too. One superfied my 5160 RD-9.
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: thombrogan]
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10/09/06 11:23 PM
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Ok, I was just checking about that...I didn't want to come out and say it....and what exactly does "superfied" entail?
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/09/06 11:27 PM
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How's sr77's corrosion resistance compared to INFI and similar high end steel? None of the other high-end steels you'll see in big-priced knives are similar to INFI. The ones that have similar or higher corrosion resistance lack the impact resistance. The ones that have similar or higher impact resistance lack the corrosion resistance. They may have more or less wear-resistance or hardness. Don't have my SR77 fix yet (heard a 10.5" bladed bowie may be out next, though), but I've put a wet S7 chopper back in its sheath for a weak with no visible rust. It also turned black where its edge touched staghorn sumac (a swamp tree in the USA), so it some things will corrode it. Just remember to sharpen out any nicks in the edge should they occur, and lightly wipe your blade with mineral oil when not in use and it won't mind the constant beatings you'll give it.
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Gravelface]
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10/09/06 11:32 PM
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and what exactly does "superfied" entail? A heat-treatment that transforms the steel into a mixture of lower-bainite (the tough and hard kind) and martensite (which it already was). Since through-hardened triple-tempered 5160 is insanely tough as it is, it was really just a waste of propane and electricity, but it's my waste of propane and electricity and now it's even tougher because its time spent in molten salts. To quote your neighbors:
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/10/06 04:19 PM
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So are Scrap Yard knives all differentially tempered, or are they thru-tempered? Bump! Dan, wll you enlighten us? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: thombrogan]
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10/10/06 07:22 PM
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now it's even tougher because its time spent in molten salts. I have been meaning to have my RDs Austempered and maybe cryo-soaked... Thom, did your Bainitic RD9 give up any edge retention or abrasion resistance? Just curious. Or gain any, for that matter... Would there be any toughness gain in trying to get more bainite in S7 (i think it already forms some lower bainite when quenched "normally", ie mar-quenched, right?) Nice to see you here, by the way Thom...
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/10/06 07:54 PM
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Thom, thanks for the imput, great to have a guru around!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/11/06 12:57 PM
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Thom, did you follow something you read or was this just an experiment you did, and is it noticably tougher, and did it compromise any other features of the knife?
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/11/06 10:42 PM
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did your Bainitic RD9 give up any edge retention or abrasion resistance? It lost some hardness, but none I could tell. May have lost some abrasion resistance, but that's not something I look for a large knife intended for chopping, splitting, prying, and digging, so couldn't tell you. It could soft metals and hard plastics without losing a hair-popping edge (that Justin applied when he fixed the scales for me.. ..I couldn't put them back on correctly <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> ). Don't know if regular cryo would do much for 5160 as it's a simple alloy. The controlled temperature drop in a pressure-sealed room type of cryogenic processing done by folks in Dan's family might do something. Would there be any toughness gain in trying to get more bainite in S7 (i think it already forms some lower bainite when quenched "normally", ie mar-quenched, right?) Nice to see you here, by the way Thom... It'll have some bainite in it no matter what you do. My oil-quenched and tempered S7 bowie (somewhere around RC57-58 hardness, I think) is my only knife which passes 'the scratching post' test. Our cats' old scratching posts are pile carpet glued to some pine. All soft stuff, but it can dent or chip 5160 (martensite and bainite), 52100, and every stainless under the sun. Nice trying to guess whom you are. Initials C. E.? BTW, Dan's the steel-knowing man and there's a lot of good steel info here, here, and here.
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Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: thombrogan]
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10/12/06 01:04 AM
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Some amazing work on the 3rd "here"
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/12/06 11:22 AM
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Thom, did you follow something you read or was this just an experiment you did, and is it noticably tougher Both. Read about it, contacted a swordmaker who does such things to do it to my RD-9, and then used said knife to pierce, chop, and slice wood covered with carpet, plastics, and wires. Have also chopped into a galvanized steel fencepost with my former Ratweiler and S7 RD-9 (microchipping on both easily sharpened out). Your question is a great one to ask. I don't know how many other people believed the 'toughness' hype about S30V, but I believed it and bought knives made with that steel. It's a great steel, but it's only tough if you're comparing it to untempered glass and pigeon egg shells. But enough about this. Stealther still needs his question answered!
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/12/06 11:25 AM
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Some amazing work on the 3rd "here" That could apply to about 60-75 people over there. And more every month as they share info and techniques like crazy.
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 Re: Heat treatment ??
[Re: Dumpster Dan]
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10/17/06 11:50 PM
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If Scrap Yard knives are going to be made with different steels like INFI and SR101 will the knives have the same heat treatment as Busse and SwampRats?
If so will the SR101 have a differential or thu-heat treatment? All Scrap Yard knives will be powered by Busse Combat's legendary heat-treating protocals which include, but are not limited to, their propietary use of martempering, interrupted quenches, and extensive use of deep cryogenic cycling. In other words, you will get more bang for your buck with Scrap Yard than any other knife on the market! Dan "The Dumpster Man" Busse
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/18/06 12:05 AM
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cgeyer, Your quote doesn't mention whether the knives will be through-tempered or differentially-tempered. Close, but no cgeyer. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/18/06 12:12 AM
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/19/06 08:58 AM
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GF - I said it before, Thom is a sharp guy, always on the cutting edge and able to make a good point! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/19/06 07:52 PM
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Re: Heat treatment ??
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10/20/06 01:24 PM
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Paul - Just a little slice of humor !
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