If it's the end of times...what's the point?

Because you're assuming that it is the end times. You may be wrong. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Better to have it and not need it...

36"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. 37As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; 39and they knew nothing about what would happen until the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 40Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left. 41Two women will be grinding with a hand mill; one will be taken and the other left.

42"Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come. 43But understand this: If the owner of the house had known at what time of night the thief was coming, he would have kept watch and would not have let his house be broken into. 44So you also must be ready, because the Son of Man will come at an hour when you do not expect him. - Matthew 24:36-44

Please no Church

nah, it's not the end of times, that's the great misconception about the prophecies... but it is time for a great tribulation that will destroy the world... not end it. We've got a long time before Jebus is supposed to come back and, then no details on the hour... like Andy and the man himself said.

WWIII is supposed to rage on for something in the neighborhood of 30 years. after that peace, after that, surprise Jebus morality inspection.

When the situation that Andy describes occurs the world as we know it today will be a living HELL.

However, some would say that it is that way now.

Surviving and Living and two totally separate issues.

Surviving is not all it s crackeup up to be. But Living is!

The end of the world is subjective. I don't think nor believe in a Christian end of the world but having no more cheap oil, that would be the end of the world that we know of.

Breathing= Good

Bob

Actually, there is no REAL shortage of crude oil!... The US Gov has been sitting on about 1/3+ of the world's KNOWN resourse of it (since we purchased Alaska from Russia)... And that's not even counting what we have burried in the ground in barrels... It's mostly/all politics! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> Stupid [censored] governments! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" />

what is the point... meh try to get the best out of everyhitng.. you only live once so live it.

People spedn too much time worrying about doomsday scenarios when it comes to survivalism. It's much better to focus on realistic and probable events like hurricanes, tornados, flood, power outages, etc.

Very true. Prepare for the likely ones then you will already be prepared for the shtf. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Bob

I try to teach my Scouts to not only Survive a situtation but to Thrive in a situation. The act of "Survival" seems to be a defensive action where "Thrive" seems to be more of a offensive action where you take control of the situation.

We go out and practice living off of the land with nothing but a knife, compass, and ferro-rod ( and a cell phone <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> )

Survival --- better than the alternative ! Tom

...any day above ground is better than any day below.

I have always looked at survival differently, in fact I used to call myself a survivalist until I looked it up on the net. It seems everyone assosciates survivalist with "nutjob who is packin' guns and bombs"
My view of survival is to get me through a couple days in the wilderness until I can be rescured. I like to practice spark based firemaking and shelter construction as my primary skills. I also like to practice constructing traps, primative fishing and whittling wood tools. I agree that to many people get caught in the romance of survival and think its adrenaline rush.
As far as the SHTFEOTWASWKI scenario, I am losely prepared for it but most likely if we are in that situation we will be dealing with radioactive environments and contaminated food/water supplies. Even those who think they are prepared will only be able to survive in that environment a short period of time.
Just my .02

I think the concept of survival depends on each individual's particular views. What might be a minor inconvenience to one person may be a total catastrophe to another. It's always interesting to see peoples' reaction to events such as hurricanes, etc. The folks in the path of Katrina certainly reacted differently, area and state to state. While some people helped solve problems involving survival, others created even more problems. Some people heeded warnings and had preparations in place, while others simply ignored the warnings.
Personally, I like ragingbull's approach ! Tom

Educate, provision, prepare.

Above all, studies of who does & doesn't survive always point to the survivor attitude:

If you INTEND to make survive. If you maintain a calm, resourceful attitude... You'll vastly improve your odds.

(Let's just hope no one starts humming the "Eye of the Tiger" theme now.)

PM - more like "Only The Strong Survive"

Hey, how do I survive south Louisiana Heat and humidity with a nagging wife and 3 year old daughter.....and no AC? Damned thing is less than a month old and the coil cracked!! Even the ACs can't handle the heat!

Here's some ideas to keep ya cool that I posted at the Swamp a couple months ago:

DIY Air conditioner



Ice Pack Vest


"Coolest vest ever for hot nerds - This looks like a good summer sewing project. It's a jacket with ice packs sewn in."

As we write, the heat is beating down in central Tokyo, hitting 96 degrees. What better way to chill out than with an ice-pack vest from Unitika? It may not be digital, but it sure is cool!

The jacket, called Me, is stuffed with pouches containing ice packs that cover the shoulders, neck and back. Fortunately, the ice comes with the vest, so you don't have to worry about melting cubes dribbling down the small of your back. Yes, we know the Me doesn't look very hot on the style front — in fact, wearers look like they've been strapped into some sort of medical truss.

The jacket has just gone on sale for ¥6,300, which is, we suppose, the price of coolness this month in Tokyo.

I suppose that if the ice packs were frozen water you would have an emergency supply with you. There is room for a couple of pockets containing survival items. This must be the summer issue of the Japanese survival vest.

Wow! I would be a hit......in Japan with one of those, Anyway the AC guy just finished up here........lalala It is looking to be a good day...except for the chemistry test I bombed this morning......grrrr!

Blame the chemistry test on the AC - it was too hot to study! Anyway, glad to hear it's working again. Stay cool!

Cool, it feels like the damned artic circle in here now...even though it is probably 73 degress or 22.7 Celsius

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />Just convince the wife that she needs to cuddle up by you for warmth, etc...... Good luck! Tom <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Luck!? She married my ugly [censored]!

GF - The fact that she married you doesn't mean that you can't get "lucky" now and then! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Getting back to the topic of survival, what do you guys think so far about that new series "Jericho" ?

Never heard of it...I need cable.....and to win the Lottery!

It's a new series on regular television - a CBS station. The basic story revolves around a small Kansas town that is apparently cut off from the rest of the country due to a nuclear attack on America, and how the townspeople react.

It has the potential of being a good wake-up call to people, pointing out the need for emergency preparations. If it doesn't get lost in a bunch of soap opera type scenarios it just might be good.