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Edge Retention... #5176 09/30/06 04:39 AM
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Hey all you Dog-users out there, has anyone tried some cutting that would test edge holding? Cardboard, rope, cinderblocks, anything?

Also, Dan/Patti, with the changes to S7's chemistry and heat treat that have been espoused here, what kind of edge retention can all us dogs expect, relative to A2, SR101, or INFI?

I absolutely love this company by the way, practical knives with emphasis on performance over looks are EXACTLY what I've been looking for! Kudos to you two, and please don't go upmarket or play supply games with us like Swamp Rat. I can't wait 3 months for a knife!


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Re: Edge Retention... [Re: BlondieStomp] #5177 09/30/06 07:05 AM
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I will Do a Cardboard test today.


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Re: Edge Retention... [Re: barrabas74] #5178 09/30/06 09:22 AM
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Yep Scrapyard as they stand right now could well be the best knife company in the world in a year or two. (Including the relatives in the rest...) Good product, good pricing and founders who read and contribute to forums. More kudos to add to Blondiestomps!


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Amen to that!


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Re: Edge Retention... [Re: Private Klink] #5180 09/30/06 08:17 PM
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PK you feeling ok? You posted and didn't mention Bowies!


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Re: Edge Retention... [Re: BlondieStomp] #5181 09/30/06 11:16 PM
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Hey all you Dog-users out there, has anyone tried some cutting that would test edge holding? Cardboard, rope, cinderblocks, anything?

Also, Dan/Patti, with the changes to S7's chemistry and heat treat that have been espoused here, what kind of edge retention can all us dogs expect, relative to A2, SR101, or INFI?

I absolutely love this company by the way, practical knives with emphasis on performance over looks are EXACTLY what I've been looking for! Kudos to you two, and please don't go upmarket or play supply games with us like Swamp Rat. I can't wait 3 months for a knife!

Great question on the steel mods -- and as far as playing supply games go, AMEN TO THAT!!! Hopefully everyone in retail takes a lesson from those guys in terms of how not to run a business. Let's see some new products, whether they are paint scrapers or bread knives, hopefully something is already on the way!


We need a 5/16" (or thicker) SR-77 BOWIE!!! (Written back in early '07 -- Regulator Premonition?)
Re: Edge Retention... [Re: sr77dogg] #5182 09/30/06 11:39 PM
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BOWIE!!!!...it's the new battle cry!


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Re: Edge Retention... [Re: Paul the Brit'] #5183 10/01/06 01:31 AM
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Great observation Paul! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> Actually, allergies are kicking my butt today - I guess that's why I forgot to mention that the BOWIE should be next. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

BOWIES - it's what you chop and slice dinner with ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Edge Retention... [Re: Private Klink] #5184 10/01/06 01:52 AM
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Blondie,
I have cut small pieces of leather, small diameter (1.5") pieces of wood and a large limb or two and have noticed no worries as far as loosing any sharpness...


BOWIE!!

Or EDC

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Re: Edge Retention... [Re: Leatherface] #5185 10/01/06 08:48 AM
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L/F - You're right, but it sure would be good to see the BOWIE next!


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Re: Edge Retention... [Re: Private Klink] #5186 10/01/06 08:53 AM
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Bowie is good, both would be better! LF please keep working your puppy and let us know how you get on!


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Re: Edge Retention... [Re: Paul the Brit'] #5187 10/01/06 08:13 PM
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Paul, you're right - both would be better. However, if only one is to be released, let it be the BOWIE!!!


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Re: Edge Retention... [Re: sr77dogg] #5188 10/01/06 11:30 PM
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Hey all you Dog-users out there, has anyone tried some cutting that would test edge holding? Cardboard, rope, cinderblocks, anything?

Also, Dan/Patti, with the changes to S7's chemistry and heat treat that have been espoused here, what kind of edge retention can all us dogs expect, relative to A2, SR101, or INFI?

I absolutely love this company by the way, practical knives with emphasis on performance over looks are EXACTLY what I've been looking for! Kudos to you two, and please don't go upmarket or play supply games with us like Swamp Rat. I can't wait 3 months for a knife!

Great question on the steel mods -- and as far as playing supply games go, AMEN TO THAT!!! Hopefully everyone in retail takes a lesson from those guys in terms of how not to run a business. Let's see some new products, whether they are paint scrapers or bread knives, hopefully something is already on the way!

I'm working it. I had not idea that there were so many other who thought the way I do ---"Performance before beauty"

You can almost imagine the conversations that I have with the head HOG.

Keep the faith

Dan

Re: Edge Retention... [Re: Dumpster Dan] #5189 10/02/06 01:08 AM
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Well Dan, we realize that you had no choice in picking your brother. However, you DO have the voice to decide the next model released - please make it a BOWIE!


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Re: Edge Retention... [Re: Private Klink] #5190 10/02/06 01:15 AM
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Did someone say Bowie.....


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Re: Edge Retention... [Re: Gravelface] #5191 10/02/06 01:23 AM
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Bowie <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> where?

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Re: Edge Retention... [Re: greens] #5192 10/02/06 01:28 AM
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When.....what was that ...NEXT!!!!


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Re: Edge Retention... [Re: BlondieStomp] #5193 10/02/06 04:12 AM
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please don't go upmarket or play supply games with us like Swamp Rat. I can't wait 3 months for a knife!

you are not seeing the big picture.


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Re: Edge Retention... [Re: Rat Finkenstein] #5194 10/02/06 04:51 AM
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please don't go upmarket or play supply games with us like Swamp Rat. I can't wait 3 months for a knife!

you are not seeing the big picture.

please enlighten me then


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Re: Edge Retention... [Re: BlondieStomp] #5195 10/02/06 01:35 PM
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The creation of Scrap Yard knives serves to split off some demand from Swamp Rat, who until the change was trying to produce 2 lines of knives (micarta & ResC) The ever increasing demand was causing wait times to get ridiculous, and people complained. (the same thing happened with Busse Combat, and a similar protocol of releasing fewer models at a time to hold back wait times was created. Now there are less choices but you don’t have to wait. Now Scrap Yard has basically the same system in place as Swamp Rat. The reason there was a gap with no models available from Swamp Rat, was they were getting caught up with previous orders before releasing new models.
As far as Swamp Rat being “up market”, I have no idea what you mean. Their pricing has not drastically increased. If you mean the secondary market, realize that they have nothing to do with setting prices for resale. The supply games you mention simply do not exist. Busse changed the system and created a cool new company in order to get knives to people faster.

The only game they are playing is trying to match demand with production.
This demand has easily doubled since I discovered Swamp Rat. (as a result wait times did too) The big picture is that all three companies are a family affair, and they are doing a good job of not cutting corners to get knives made. If you are too impatient to wait “two weeks” now and then, you can go and buy some lesser knives and get them quickly.

Or you can go buy a Randall and wait 4 or more years. (the direction Busse & Swamp Rat were heading when they offered full lines of knives) I very much prefer the new system.


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Re: Edge Retention... [Re: Dumpster Dan] #5196 10/02/06 04:55 PM
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I'm working it. I had not idea that there were so many other who thought the way I do ---"Performance before beauty"

You can almost imagine the conversations that I have with the head HOG.

Keep the faith

Dan
I just wanted to say how inspiring this is to hear. It seems like there is so much emphasis on "fit & finish" that performance is almost not an issue with many makers. I guess it really doesn't matter if the knives are destined to sit in a safe or behind glass -- the blades might as well be 420j2 or gold or whatever. personally i have always thought of "fit & finish" as being a distraction. I love the description of the blades being "a whole lotta ugly", but extreme performers. To hear a highly reputable knife maker say things like that is a dream come true, i'm sure for a lot of us. Grind on, brother!


We need a 5/16" (or thicker) SR-77 BOWIE!!! (Written back in early '07 -- Regulator Premonition?)
Re: Edge Retention... [Re: sr77dogg] #5197 10/02/06 05:32 PM
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Now lets see some of these ugly performers!


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Re: Edge Retention... [Re: Gravelface] #5198 10/02/06 08:03 PM
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Yep a big ugly forest eating BOWIE!!!


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I am sedating my chopper addiction with Battle Rats.....need DOGS!!!


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Battle Mistress, Battle Rat; so what will the bowie be called?? Dog-of-war?


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The BIG Dog of War ! Sounds like a great name for a great new BOWIE!!!!


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'Big dog of war' works for me.


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I still need a Battle mistress.....But a good ole War Dog would do my heart well!


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Re: Edge Retention... [Re: Gravelface] #5204 10/02/06 09:19 PM
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I just couldn't bring myself to stump up for a FBM, I hope Dan does 'infi' sometime. AFTER THE BOWIE obviously!


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Right on Paul! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />


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I had to....I could help myself! Thats what they tell me at BCAA....if a quality chopper is offered...DO IT!!


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Re: Edge Retention... [Re: Gravelface] #5207 10/03/06 01:13 AM
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GF - You need help - BOWIE help! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />

Dan, you can see what a mess GF has become, and how he needs your help! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Please release the BOWIE next so that one of your Scrap Yard Dogs doesn't go Infi-crazy. It would reflect badly on the Yard, and we can't have that! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> Do the BOWIE Dan; it's the right thing to do! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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