How about a "battle grade" (SR101) Scrapper 4?

With all of the recent releases of "battle grade" Busse' I'd love to see a couple of re-releases here.

Here's my list of would love to see available in SR101:

Dogfather FFG (LE style blank but coated)
Scrapper 4
Yard Keeper CG

Dumpster Mutt. Specifically like the one that I stupidly sold. It was ffg with a swedge. SR101 would make it that much better. Selling that knife is my biggest Bussekin regret. I've never seen another one.

We all have done that with something or other. Mine was my Sig P229 40S&W.

I might possibly have to invest if Dan came out with the SS4 Again. Heck, WHO am I kidding. I WOULD get one.

+1 for the Scrapper 4... 1/8" thick for a change of pace.

Nah. 3/16 would work for the 4.

We could have a lean (1/8") and chubby (3/16") versions of the SS4.

NOW you're talkin! I have wanted an SS4 like forever. I had two scoped out but they got sold before the seller saw my wanting them. Heck, even now I'd trade my BS for one. Yeah, like that's gonna happen.

I'd rather have a few in SR101 than the original INFI.

What is it about the SS4 in SR101 that makes you prefer it over the 411? Is it the round finger choil?

Round choil and more pointed blade. PLUS the rounded spine. I mean Heck, it's an SS4!

I was just trying to find out what disqualifies the 411, besides it being an 11.

The 411 isn't disqualified, I HAVE one.

I get it. I had an SS4 and I etched the logo and stripped the coating. Great knife. I've never handled a 411.

The 411 was a poor performer for me. I think the thinner version of the SS4 blade profile might address the issues.

I am tempted by the 1/8 inch you and Spidy talked about but I think that for me in that length the 3/16 would be better. I tend to abuse my knives sometimes and THAT would be one of the ones to get abused.

Yeah I would want the round choil. Heck, just make it a partial choil. Stop the choil at the plunge line Where the edge should start, and call it quits! I would also like the spine rounded. You can apply a LOT of pressure to a rounded spine and not hurt your thumb or finger, plus IF you were to baton with it it wouldn't tear up the baton as bad (or as quick rather).

I like the idea of stopping the choil at the plunge line. Some designs are losing too much cutting edge with enlarged choils. An elf choil would work on the BGSS4.

I also like the rounded spine idea, but that would be a cost consideration for Dan's value ratio.

Of course, I'd want a Sage / Tan ResC option.

I think offering 1/8" and 3/16" versions would address all of us.

On second thought, I would not want an elf choil. I'd be using this as a detail knife and often choke up on these.

I small rounded choil stopping at the plunge would work.

After looking at pics (on the knife spec thread) I think a normal choil that stops at the plunge line would work real nice. It will be somewhat angled (ala the Mud Puppy choil, WHICH IS GREAT!), and helps keep your finger away from the edge.

OK Dan, here is the design criteria for the BGSS4.
1. A Muppy type choil (or keep it the normal shape but stop it at the choil line so it isn't a full half circle)
2. Rounded spine
3. Choice of black, gray or green mudders
4. Choice of powder coat in black, sage, coyote brown and NO coating (don't do anything special just leave off the coating).
5. Choice of .125 or .187 (one eighth or three sixteenth inch) blade thickness.

Dan, you'll sell a ton of these!

The SS4 was such an early release...be nice to give the newer generation a chance at this classic!

You don't see them too often on the exchange.

I would be in for six to eight of them. Seriously.


Dan would sell a TON of SR101.

And I personally don't want one in INFI. I'd rather have SR101.

I could cope quite nicely with SR101. But PLEASE make it available in other colors along with black that many like, PLEASE.

Right now Dan's already sold at least 10 or 12 and he hasn't even said he was gonna make any! Imagine how many he would sell if he DID say he was gonna make them.

Sage and Tan for my 6 to 8.

I could be happy with those colors.

IF you had one of the Chophouse knives and the NEW SS4 in SR101, you could survive anything that would necessitate the use of a blade!

HELP US SURVIVE DAN!

Dan,
Our blood will be on your hands if you deny us this basic request.

Okay, maybe that was a little dramatic, but Randy started it.

I would seriously buy SIX to EIGHT SS4BG in Sage/Tan. I honestly think a re-release of a thick & thin version of the SS4BG (SR101) would be huge because most of the knives coming out now are choppers. I love choppers, but I actually use knives in the 4" range. There aren't many good Bussekin options in this most practical range.

The SS4 INFI originals are EXPENSIVE and RARE on the secondary. Personally, I don't see the utility of INFI under 6". SR101 is perfectly acceptable for all applications and excels in the smaller range.

The SS4BG would be a nice supplement (and likely replacement) to the growing horde of Busse ADBG I'm accumulating. I think I'm up to four of these now.

I know the SS in SS4 stands for Street Scrapper, but it COULD also stand for Survival Standard! The Knife that set the STANDARD for Survival situations!

HELP US SURVIVE!

The trend has not been BG releases of SYKCO blades...only Busse. The trend here has been new designs from SYKCO, but released through Busse (or at least advertised together).

I think a BG SS4 would be great. Make'r thin. Give me a sharpened swedge on a few as well. Although, I have to agree with Adam...not sure what need this meets that the 411 didn't.

None of the new releases accomplish anything an older release cannot.

A person could have bought the following and had all of their bases covered for life:

Yard Keeper - detail
SOD or Scrapper 6 - general purpose
Dogfather - chopper

However, we all keep buying newer options

I recently modified some 411's for this purpose.


Also fixed my S5LE the way I always wanted it to be.

Nice job!

Outstanding job on that 411! Dan has been too quiet lately, something good must be brewing. SS4BG would be a winner.

OK, I will accept a 5/32 inch thick SURVIVAL SCRAPPER 4!

SURVIVAL SCRAPPER 4
(Based upon the blade profile of the original SS4)

Blade Length = 4.0" to 4.25"
Blade Thickness = 0.125" (Thin Option) & 0.188" (Thick Option)
Blade Grind = Full Flat
Choil = Curved (ending at plunge)
Grip = Mudder
Steel = SR101

Make mine Sage with Tan RES-C and I'm in for 8.

Offer a Mashed Cat sheath for another $25 (similar to the Scrapivore deal) and I'll take 8 of those too.

Personally I dislike a choil on that small of a knife. Detail work where you're choking up on the blade typically involves quite a bit of pressure and to me it negates the whole point of having a comfortable grip if my index finger is wrapped around bare metal. I'd prefer to have the edge run as close to the handle as possible, with maybe a little sharpening notch.

Just my $.02, everyone uses their knives differently.

Agreed on the "no choil" but I would buy one either way.

I would buy a NO CHOIL version.

Come on Dan, what do you say? Survival Scrapper 4 for 2016! That is one nomination I could get behind.

I second the motion!

I echo the sentiments of what the Dogs say.

Choil (stopping at the plunge line), or no choil I'm in for one, maybe 2 depending on the price. Oh and like Gary said, if plastic sheaths come with them ALL THE BETTER!

Now If we can just get DT in on this. He has Powers!

Dog Tired has powers? I knew it!

YUP, Our Very own Super Squirrel. He's faster than a speeding ATV, and he leaps tall Pine cones in a single bound. His steely gaze can petrify the most rabid hunter, HE'S SUPERSQUIRREL!

I would be in for one, no doubt

Sounds a lot like my Bog Dog

Hahaha, DT.

Ish, it does sound a little like a Bog Dog.

The Bog Dog! Such an awesome knife. The SR101 version is just a tad thicker than the D2 version, and the D2 is quite thin. I don't remember the numbers and I'm too lazy to look up the thicknesses.

I decided to look it up.

Bog Dog (D2)... = 4.65 oz; .14"; 4.75" blade; 9.56" oal
Bog Dog (SR101)= 4.9 oz; .15"; 4.75” blade; 9.56” oal

You process any game with it yet Max? If so, how did it work?

More of a drop point if I remember correctly.

Certainly you know the answer to that!

The BD is amazing in every sense. My primary belt blade for hiking / camping / hunting. I still prefer my GI when processing animals, but the BD is no slouch. It points easily, holds a great edge, and is thick enough to require no special treatment.

If SYKCO ever makes one similar...I'd probably get it. I favor the drop point for most functions over the SS4 design.

I'm going to blaspheme....

I bought a few KaBar / Becker BK16 to test as a detail knives. The ergonomics are fantastic, and the knife feels very nimble. My concern will be edge retention.

Time will tell.

In the smaller blade I'm a no choil guy.

Gary I just watched a video today about stripping the coating off the whole knife, getting a plastic sheath from Azwelki and putting on canvas micarta scales. Said the whole thing should run (counting the cost of the knife) about 120-130 and will preform as good or better than knives running up to about 150 or so.

I love my BK 15- awesome knife and I got the aftermarket micarta scales which I like a llot too.

Becker, just like esee's are good knives. Only issue in my mind is that 1095 doesn't perform like sr101, easier to sharpen but that's it. I like a2 or 01 over 1095.

Rich,
I ended up with a BK15 in my order too. Great design! It feels lighter than the 16.

GD,
I agree. The 1095 is my only concern, but for just a little more than the cost of adding a sheath to one of my Bussekin I thought it was worth it to experiment.

There are many who solely use 1095 blades. I am sure they will work fine for you. Let us know what you think after using them for a while.

I've been surprised by the 15 toughness, even ground pretty thin and with that long swedge- it can still take a beating. I've found the edge retention to be very good as well. I should probably hunt up another one since it was discontinued.

Back on the SS4- put me down for one..choil or no!

Personally I prefer a choil just large enough to get my finger in there without contacting the edge. When (IF) I need to choke up I like my index finger in front of the handle.

But as Rich said PUT ME DOWN FOR ONE... CHOIL OR NO!