Dolce & Gabbana condemned over knife ads

Dolce & Gabbana condemned over knife ads
Wed Jan 10, 8:34 AM ET

Britain's advertising watchdog criticized Italian fashion house Dolce & Gabbana Wednesday for a campaign showing models brandishing knives.

The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA), the industry regulator, upheld more than 150 complaints from people concerned that the stylized pictures glorified and condoned violent crime.

One of the two adverts, which appeared in the Times newspaper, showed two men threatening a man in a chair while another lay on the floor with a head wound.

It was printed last October next to an article about knife crime. There is widespread concern over the level of violent assaults in Britain.

A second advertisement in the Daily Telegraph newspaper featured two men supporting a wounded woman holding a knife.

The fashion label said the adverts, which appeared in newspapers and magazines around the world, were heavily stylized and were meant to mimic early 19th century art.

The pictures were designed to evoke the Napoleonic period of art, "emphasizing the theatrical effects of that genre."

In a written ruling, the ASA acknowledged the stylized nature of the pictures, but said they could still cause "serious or widespread offence."

"The ad could be seen as condoning and glorifying knife-related violence," the ASA said of the Times advert. "It was irresponsible."

"We reminded D&G of its duty to prepare ads with a sense of responsibility to consumers and to society."

Dolce & Gabbana said the adverts drew no complaints when they were published in China, Europe, Hong Kong, Japan and the United States.

total crap!! knee jerk reaction from sheeple.

Two questions:
1. What kind of knives
2. Any recommendations on what I should wear with a Dog Father

Black pin-striped suit, black shirt, black tie, and black hat and socks and shoes. You could stick a tan handkerchief in your jacket pocket, along with a red carnation in the lapel for contrast! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" /> Tom a.k.a. GodFather

On you, Dan? Evening gown. Black is preferable. And a nice pair of pumps. Definitely.


Us: <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" />

Britain (present company excluded, of course):

I found this picture over at BF.

Note the black tee-shirt, black jacket, and black FBM. Color coordination and a sense of drama.

I wonder how this picture would have gone over in Sheeple-ville.

now THAT ad really makes me wanna go out and buy a CGFBM, and hack down some Christmas trees!
Treehugger societies & ASA ought to look into banning That ad for sure.. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Who the hell is that!!!! I don't think I would swing my FBM by a lanyard!

maybe it's the new improved nintendo Wii strap.. Duck!

There was a time when people in britain thought the occasional death from dueling was worth it for a polite society. I really miss that England.
This is my 100th post I am now a mutt woo hoo!

There comes a point in time where enough is enough. TIME FOR A POLL

Okay, how many here wear Dolce and Gabbana clothes or even knows what they look like?

Me? Nope. Don't wear it and have not seen it at Sportsman's Warehouse, or Walmart.

Hehe, being a fashion photographer I must admit I am familiar with the line. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I like it...the God Father sporting a Dog Father

Snazzzzzy
Dan

Ok, thats an image non of us will get over

LOL

Dan

You gotta wonder how many fingers he has left on the other hand

Dan

My wife and daughters know who DC is...I had to ask them, no clue on this guys part. From what I understand, I'm blessed that they shop at the botigue of Wall and Mart

Dan

That has to be an interesting profession. I had a buddy who did photography for an agency but he only got to shoot stills of cars, accessories and such. I think he would have killed to work with anything that would fog a mirror

Dan

Are we going to see the Scrap Yard version of the Snap-On Calendar?

hell, Target is high class around here!

I live in Anchorage, AK and we do not have a Target store yet! 6 years ago we got our first Costco and Walmart soon followed.

By the way, I was told it is French...Tarjais!

Yep, hot models and sinister blades for a calander! Why don't we get Scrap Yard and Dan to host a Photoshop competition a la Snap On? Which month do you want to reserve Dan? Strapless gown for September? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

I'll need bigger Scrapyards than the SS4. If anyone wants to send me some big Scrapyard Knives I'll see what I can come up with. This shot is from a Zombie Hunter series I'm working on.



Here's another one:



I like the God Father/Dog Father thing though, might have to steel that. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I usually get my clothes at Goodwill. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> I can get all those expensive fancy name brands for pennies on the dollar. Especially in the “high rent” districts. And some snooty people wouldn’t be caught dead in the same outfit twice, so they’re usually in good shape. Why pay more? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> The only problem is you never know what they’ll have, so you have to dig through everything.

I just send the wife out into the consumer world....what she buys....I usually wear. She knows my limits and only test them for holidays.

Well considering that the philosphy of Scrapyard is making knives out of what ever Dan can find lying around, I'd hate to see what that would mean in the model department.

LOL!!
prolly all crinkle-coated, wearing muddy lookin res-c, but only 1/4 the price of a Busse model!

I really need a black trenchcoat!!!!

hmm...Any chubby guys got one to trade?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


Great photos Ted...If I ever get my shortripper done I will send it to ya for a couple website pics!!!!

You can probably find a good deal on eBay. I have 5-6 different Wilson leather jackets, that new cost $300-$400 each, and I bought all of them on eBay for less than $20 each SHIPPED!

But do you have any for really fat guys? Like a size 50 black leather trenchcoat?
I would hate to guess what the shipping on one of those would be?

Size 50? Ummm how many cows is that? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Err a herd? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/paperbag.gif" alt="" />

Well, that just so happens to be my size. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> My suit coat is a size 50, but I think I could use a little bit bigger size. If I were to flex my arms, I think I could split the back of it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> I don’t have a trenchcoat, but like I said, I’m a 50 and I bought all of my leather jackets shipped for less than $20. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I bought a nice synthetic motorcycle jackett a 3xxxl icon Merc and it fits but it is skin tight. It works great sitting on the bike and the armour is like a fencing jackett. i would like a more comfy leather jackett for casual city riding.

You can’t find a deal everyday on eBay though, you have to make a saved search and check it frequently. But if you’re patient and keep an eye out, you can find some deals. Especially in the summer. Most people don’t shop for jackets then. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

zombie hunting.. LOL
i've seen lots of discussions on this topic.. definitely need a good chopper for that!

Oh, and another tip, when I searched for leather jackets, I only searched for Wilsons ones because I know they’re expensive and high quality, and that would weed out all the cheaper inferior import jackets from my search. Like the crap black “patch work” leather jackets that you’ve probably seen that are flooded on eBay.

aww.. you kiddin me?? i see those "patchwork" ones at the [censored] Grocery store!! talk about slummin!

Yeah, they look pretty crappy. Poor quality too, zippers, etc. I've seen them advertised in the Sunday coupon section for $30. I knew a couple people that bought one, and they were so frustrated by the lack of quality that they ended up throwing them away.

Appreciate that!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

well.. for zombies.. you definitely want something resistant to gnawing.. and clawing.. none of that thin cheap leather..

..prolly want equally rough & tough boots.. maybe biker boots.. with steel toe preferably.

Maybe with spikes on ‘em, like a porcupine to keep ‘em back. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

and i think 2 reliable choppers, one in each hand is the way to go.. faster than a single sword.. cuz you Know they'll come at you in packs.

Yep, and lengthy choppers are your friend. Or maybe a Busse AK47 in each hand. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

ooooh! yeah! AKs! perfect.
hmm.. you think micarta? or res-c? would be better against zombies?
i'd have a couple crash axes for backup too.

A SY Res-C AK47 would be GREAT! Very grippy. Especially important when you're whirling and twisting about with it to keep it from slipping out of your hands. Some crash axes would be good, you could throw them too. Speakin' of throwing...wouldn't some SR77 ninja stars be really cool! They could be pretty affordable too. Since there wouldn't be any handles (like knives have Res-C or Micarta) to add to the cost, and they wouldn't take that much steel to make. They could make CG crinkle coat, and LE satins. I'd buy some! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Res-C sr77 (so cheap enough to buy a pair!!) wakizashis for zombies I think! Or a SPAS 12... If you want to throw something try an african hunting throwing knife, that would be awesome... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Spas 12.. you Know the ammo would only last for the first couple waves.. then it's hand to hand! Best to don some sort of protection too. Would have to raid the local sporting goods store or Walmart..

Throwing stars are really easy to make. I have some 1095 and will show you guys the results when I am done.

ooh can't wait!
How-to w/ pics plz <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

That'll be a first- shuriken in decent steel!

No kidding!

hmm.. perhaps something like skeleton warden would make a good thrower.. no scales to break.

I think Busse would sort out scales bust by throwing anyway, I read someone post on BF that they had for him! (He did offer to pay but Busse service wouldn't let him pay!) Good warranty and attitude in the Busse family!

Having said that why would you throw your enemy a nice sharp dangerous weapon??

more for "enemy" 2x4s lined up in the backyard.. just backyard fun for me & my son.
yep i saw that thread.. i'd hate to do that to a micarta'd Busse!
i'll prolly pick up couple of cheap cold steel throwers & have at it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Good plan! CS make some very economical throwers...

I have a carbon V CS thrower and it is one of my favorite knives. I even put a nice edge on it. The only problem is you can't get carbon V from CS any more.
Their new throwers are 1050 which is good but not the screamming deal the old ones were.

I had no idea there would be interest in throwing stars so I will take some
(bad) pics while I make one this week. I don't do my own heat treat so it will be a while before it is totaly done but I will definitly show you guys how she throws before I send her awy. I have a belt grinder for knives but I will do the star with just a angle grinder with a cut off wheel and bench grinder for those of you who only have basic tools.

heat treat??
wow this guy's serious!
i had an old ninja star from the 80's.. well Lots actually.. but my old favorite.. lemme see if i can find a pic..

..only chrome, and sharper. from the local strip mall ninja store (yep lots back in the 80's)
nothin to write home about..you could see the cheap stamped edges.. but man.. it stuck every time.. i'd hit Nails, Concrete.. bounced off everything.. that thing kept going! i miss it.

I loved those 80's ninja movie's back then but now I watch them and they are so bad it is painfull. I remember them being awesome.
My star is going to be the oppisite of that one ,just a steel squarewith some grinding so it is more of a diamond shape.

Man, their knives keep getting crappier and crappier...

Unsub,
aww man.. how much $ do their new throwers go for?
how does the 1050 steel compare with your good 'ol Carbon V ?

If you didn't know, you can get CS stuff on eBay much cheaper than from dealers, shows, or CS themselves.

Yeah.. i sorta found that out.. CS website prices are like almost double Interweb prices.. but their cool chopping vids are kinda Funny! almost worth the visit!

Yeah, I got their freebie DVD with the catalog before I found the Swamp. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

oh! i didn't get my CS DVD yet! those scoundrels!

hey have you seen those low-cost non-metal "resin" knife line?
FGX line i think they're called..
they're sooo politically incorrect!

i've considered the resin karambit.. as a neat flipping toy.

I have a Carbon V thrower but my only 1050 blade is the Sting from CRKT.
The carbon V is just as tough and has better edge retention to boot.
You don't really need edge retention on a thrower but it is nice if you put an edge on it and use it as a tactical knife. The carbon V thrower makes a wicked tactical knife because of the great blade shape and general toughness.

Yeah, I have several of them. I bought two of the FGX T handle knives, and I was disappointed in their quality. They’re certainly no Stealth Hawk. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Like most of Cold Steel’s stuff, their quality is declining. They’re more interested in profits than quality. The T handles ones I bought were too bendy and thin. I have an older CAT tanto, and it’s much sturdier. Here most of my plastic knives. I have a few more, but I couldn’t find them all when I took the pic. I got my first plastic knife when I was about 12 or so. (1992)

Andy.. wow you pretty much got 'em all.. i forget the name of the Resin they use.. "halonite" or something?
What's the weight on those? really light?
Do you have the Karambit one?

Who gives a rats patoot what Dolce & Gabbana think!!

That's right! if they wanna use super skinny models w/ knives! then let 'em!

Exactly!!

ok Andy my bad..
CS calls it "Grivory"..

>>
Made from Grivory™— the latest in fiberglass reinforced plastic, and stronger than even the super tough Zytel® we have used in earlier models— they are UV and heat stabilized, making them impervious to the elements.
<<

i understand the handles are still Kraton..
so.. is the new Grivory really better than the old Zytel?

"they are UV and heat stabilized, making them impervious to the elements"

LOL.. know what's ironic?

the same thing can be said of Styrofoam cups you throw out the window!
They'll just sit there on the ground with all the other litter.. not decompose, and last for Centuries!

The tip on my kerambit snapped off taking it out of the bag. So, I got the Steel Tiger and it's pretty nice. It has the same feel, but the blade is steel. Wicked looking knife.

tedwca,Woa.. so the resin (grivory) kermabits are THAT weak??
that Stinks!

As a Brit I can tell you that the knuckle dragging pond scum that regularly fill up our hospitals with thier handy work do not need any ads to encourage them .
This is another example of the hand ringing wooly minded society that looks to blame everything and everybody else rather than punish violent drunk/drugged people for thier actions.
Thats my rant over for the day I'm just getting grumpy waiting for the scrapper 6 to return

JD01 - get yourself a DogFather to tide you over until the Scrapper 6 returns. You will want one anyway ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

The Dog Father WILL cheer you up!!

Yeah, they’re pretty light. I don’t have the karambit one.


I was dissapointed with the grivory. It was too thin and bendy. It might be ok if they made it thicker. Typical declining CS “quality” (if you can call it that).

Well, it was just the very point of the tip. It would still do a mean job of slashing someone if it had to. I was just bummed that it was damaged before I could break it.