Just got my knife

Just got my knife, first appearance is good and i'm pleased overall. The sheath isn't what i was hoping for, maybe for a free one might be ok, but i'll just pass next time i guess. The coating is top notch and the handle fit is excellent. Only real problem i wasn't expecting was it's very dull. Not even close to being able to cut paper clean in the middle, and 3/4 of the edge i can rub my finger on with no worries of getting cut. For the price i'm not complaining, but just an fyi for scrap yard that they might want to put a little more QC on the sharpening process. I have no desire to send it back, i'll just do it myself, just wish i had an edgepro or something to speed it up.

I'm just giving some input to help things out as i realize this company is new and they will need feedback from their customers. Overall i think things are ok for just getting up and running. Smooth start so far IMO. Had one glitch during my order but patti is taking care of it, email responce time is very good.

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I understand the arguement about having a blade sharp straight from the factory, but not so much the expressing it as much as I see it....what do these folks do when there knife gets dull?
You sharpen it! So when it comes not quit as sharp as you like....just do it yourself......tyuio, I'm not calling on you , but there just seems to be a bit of it!

I agree, when a knife gets dull it's best to sharpen it so it works like it was new......well works like it's supposed to i mean. If input isn't wanted here thats no prob, just need to learn the rules of this new forum.

No, nothing like that at all, in put is needed and every one of your comments is appreciated, I didn't mean to sound like an [censored], I was just making a general statement about folks talking about dull blades, I just wonder if they know HOW to sharpen it when the time comes to.

You both have good points. My scrapper is not as sharp as I would have liked, but I am sure that a couple of seconds with my steel will have it shaving hair. This does not bother me. All of my swamp rats and busse knives have been very sharp from the get-go, up to now, regardless of what steel they are made of.
I bought a buck general at cabela's this weekend. I spent around 50 bucks for it, and it came so sharp out of the box it is virtually a razor. I do understand how tyuio would expect our puppies to be equally as honed when new.

mine is pretty sharp out of the box...same than my other SR and Busse..

Right on! The only way to improve the product is to give an honest feedback. While I don't care if my scrapper comes razor sharp or not, the next guy will expect it to. Many folks are used to razor sharpness straight out of the box and in many cases are not fimiliar with sharpening technique.

I am inclined to agree with greens. If knives costing 1/2 that of Yard knives, let alone Rats and Hogs, can come shaving sharp from the factory, why can't the Dogs? I really like my Scrapper, but would have liked the edge a little sharper. Yes, I sharpened it, but feel like I should not have had to do so. Just my honest thoughts! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Sounds like I best get some fine 'wet and dry' paper and an old mouse mat in for when my S6 arrives! Personally apart from Gerber multitools I can't remember ever getting a knife that impressed me with the edge on it from the factory. Some have been truly bl**dy awful (Ontario and Camillus)!

yep, i agree -- i had to spend hours on both of mine, just because i don't have the convenience of a slack-belt grinder like they do at the shop -- but if i can put a razor edge on a knife, so can anyone, even if they are a hack. i just bought a $17 cold steel that shaved out of the box... i mean, if THEY know how to sharpen, it can't be that hard, right? I agree, we shouldn't have to spend hours on brand new $90 or $140 blades. One of mine LEs (i bought two) even had little swirly-marks on it either from an orbital sander or from being hand-worked in a circular fashion... and it was duller than the other one! I could understand a very obtuse edge if they were big choppers, but heavy edge geometry doesn't have to mean "dull" -- my HOGFSH factory edge popped hairs and left great clean bald spots on my arm -- razor sharp but over 5/16" thick with an edge to match. like you say, just my honest thoughts. In my earlier posts i tried to defend the quality of the edge, i was caught up in the excitement of a new company... but lately i'm feeling much more caring, and realize it wasn't right of me to sugar-coat my feedback if i really hope to see the quality of the products improve -- if people continue to be disappionted, they won't keep buying knives. it's that simple.

That 17 dollar cold steal will be fun to chop with a Bowie... Dogg, are you disappointed to the point where you would consider not buying another Scrapper because of the edge? And where is the Avatar......

sr77dogg - I hope that your less-than-perfect edge won't dissuade you from future Yard knives. Mine was a little duller than expected, perhaps due to a rushed production date. However, I am really looking forward to the next release - hopefully the BOWIE! At the same time, I hope that Dan and Patti have taken notice of all the comments regarding their knife edges and take measures to improve them.
As far as sugar-coating feedback - well, I think that what we may consider constructive criticism sometimes is viewed as complaining, and generates negative feelings from some folks. I think that sometimes I am a little too honest and direct for some folks' liking, but I try to tell it like I see it. I love my Scrapper and have great hopes for future products, and I will continue to tell it like I see it.

Guys if people don't say it like it is, stuff never gets fixed. I think whinging is when you just keep hammering on about the same issue and 'dis' knives or companies rather than offering good feedback. With a forum read and contributed to by the company booses, comments and complaints will make a good company great. (Just my thoughts!)

Sharper Blades and Bowies!....and shirts and stickers!

GF and Paul - RIGHT ON !!!!!!

Like GF said!

It WOULD be nice to hear from Dan on this matter of blade sharpness. Dan, would you please address this concern of sharpness ?

The blade sharpness is being addressed because of your input. You will see much sharper knives going forward.

Please continue to help us become better at delivering what you want and need.

Dan "The Dumpster Man" Busse

Oh, I think I can sum up both of those with one word......BOWIE!!!

Bl**dy sharp big bad bowie!!

Thanks for your input Dan, it's great to feel valued as a customer and I'm sure the guys all second that!

I don't think you have to asterisk out Bloody, unless I am missing something. And I second that!

Thanks for the second, I'm just trying to be (a bit) polite with the asterisking!

By asterisking, It seems to draw a bit more attention to the word, where normally it would be looked over. In my opinion...I don't think anyone, even a 10 year old would get in trouble for saying bloody. Thanks for the consideration though, I just throwing out my 2 cents, by any means I am not telling you how to type.

Paul and GF - You guys are something else! Unless I'm wrong, in Britain the term "bloody" is akin to strong cursing/swearing. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

Dan - thanks for your attention to the sharpness issue. This is a prime example of constructive discussions. Now, if we can just convince you to release the BOWIE next.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

We are merely a reflection of our upbringing!

Bloody over here (no asterisks as GF doesn't) is sort of minor to middle level swearing. It's not too bad really, I just thought I'd try to avoid 'cussing' having said that I suppose 'hell yeah' may annoy some.

Your point about Dan listening to us is spot on and is good for us all, especially us BOWIE lovers!

Come on now, I just don't recognize it as swearing....

Pretty low level swearing!

My wife and I get into these debates...our child is 3, and she gets onto me when I slip on my swear-o-meter, but then she plays music with our child in the car, that I consider vulgar!.....What to do....besides get a BOWIE!

You're right, a large bowie will make it all better! Dan GF needs your help!

And your knives!

Yup a Bowie would be good for that situation!!

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I've heard that a new BOWIE is just the cure for those folks who need a large steel blade! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Dan, this is the perfect chance for you to "play Doctor" and get away with it. I'm sure that a new Yard BOWIE would be the perfect remedy for GF's ailment! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Regarding sharpness, i think it depends on your usage as well, one person may receive it and want to push cut paper with it/prepare dinner, the next guy might want to go and beat on some 2X4s. AFAIK you should have different edge geometries for each use. From the busses and rats that i have, i kinda prefer that they have an edge that's not too sharp new, i mainly use them outdoors so i prefer a more durable edge. Just my 2 cents <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Hello Carpenoctem - Welcome to the Yard! Interesting point about the edge geometry, but I feel that a knife's main function is cutting. My Swamp Rat BattleRat is a great chopper, but it came to me ready to shave hair. THAT is the way I feel a knife edge should be! I hope the new Scrap Yard Bowie will be the same, but of course, it's different strokes for different folks!

It'll be interesting to see how the edge on the bowie (when I get one now Dans done the decent thing!) matches up to my Scrapper 6 (still in the mail!) when it arrives. Edge wise I'm along the lines of PK, I like my big knives sharp (even my Tramontina Bolo is sharp and set to around 25 degrees), hair popping works for me.

Paul - You don't have any ties to the knifemakers in Sheffield, do you? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Sadly not, there are very few of them left now. The last big name in British knives was 'Wilkinson Sword' and they went bump last year... Pity, their new knife (the Dartmoor CSK) was redesigned by the Royal Marine Commando survival school instructors in Devon and those hardcore BMF's know their stuff! Having said that the Dartmoor CSK is a bit heavy..

Imagine what the Bowie will weigh in at!

Hmm, res-C grip, full hollow grind (probably), .25" stock- it'll weigh in about perfect! Ready to order, Patti!

Send me 2...my daughter will need one, and I certainly will not give up mine!

Your daughter will grow up strong and proud, a well rounded, educated, citizen!

Well rounded?...I hope she is more the athletic type, Tall and slim! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Hehe, not exactly what I meant!

I totally agree with you on the being shaving sharp out of the box. Reading back on my original message, i'm not sure what my post has to do with sharpness. That's what happens when you do stuff past your bedtime. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Hehe, i think paul means that he hopes your daughter can be a well rounded individual as in she'll be smart, a good person, and athletic. I think all the boys here wish all women in the world were athletic <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

I know, but it is still fun to pick! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

GF's pickin, and I'm a grinnin! HeeHaw!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

lol, that's the way the way to do it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> let'em come to you.

Athletic works for me, Buffy, Faith... aarrgghll (in a Homer style!)

If you say so!

Not a Buffy fan then? Cute blonde who likes knives.. what's not to like!

She will drive a stake through your heart!!!!

While if given half a chance (maybe even less than half a chance...) I'd eat her for breakfast, as I'm not a vamp I'm not unduly worried! But hell what a way to go!

Just to be on topic for a moment, I too just got my knife!!

hell of a way to go indeed, i remember the same being said for rogue (from the x men comics) congrats on the knife.

Thanks mate! Incase I've not said it already, welcome to the pound!

you did indeed, but always good to feel welcomed. Hopefully i'll get a knife from here soon, i was looking forward to the infi mean street style blade but it looks like i'll have to wait a bit yet.

This is a great forum, it's good fun hangin' here so welcome and enjoy! Most of us bowie supporters want that little INFI too. Hopefully if we keep it in the forum Dan will make it for us. Dan and Patti read the posts and seem to be interested in what we want, what more can we ask for from a company? I'd recommend the Scrapper that's out now, it's a great allrounder, why wait for a Dan knife?

Paul - I suppose Buffy is cute enough, but she can't hold a candle to Yancy Butler - star of the "Witchblade" show ! Babes with blades - gotta' love em' ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I wish I had cable, but sacrifices must be made to support the habit!!

Well GF - There ARE priorities ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Indeed, why wait? Under other circumstances i think i'd have one headed my way, but right now prudence, (and the utmost desire not to be in too much debt) means that i need to wait. I loves the res c though, so sometime in the future.

In the future will be the Bowie...debt or no debt, that beast is heading to Louisiana!!!

I am with Gravel...Life is entirely to short NOT to get the toys ya want!!


Ahh within reason of course <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

agreed!


so you mean no mega death rays?

I want mega death rays!! But I'll settle for a bowie for now!

Paul, I think you have the right idea ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

If you throw Bowie.....it could sort of be like a Death Ray?

I'd end up just knocking them out with the blunt end... So more of a 'stun beam' in my hands...

Getting knocked out on stun is quite an accomplishment!

So Paul, does that make your knife the BMW of knives - the "Beamer" ?!? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Ouch... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

It would hurt I would imagine, just catching the butt end of a huge Bowie to the face!

#&*^%+^%&## <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />

Yep, especially that 3/8" monster you guys are dreaming of!

For sure !!!

I thought a 3/8 thick would be tooooooo much till I got that FNMOASH...it really isn't too thick. It really is inspiring, kinda makes you want to go out and attack a tank!

GF - you could do that with a Scrapper !!!

GF plus knife V. Abrams/Challenger 2/Merkava (etc)? My money's on the tank...

I don't know there Paul, GF with a new knife - he could go pretty crazy!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

He'd just need VERY good body-armour and to run around a lot...

Tanks are easy to get past....just pull the halon release on the rear of the tank and the crew will have to bail out...then...well you know the rest!

Sneaky!

Been there, it was fun to do to "enemy" tanks during training....just don't get caught doing it....they frowned on that!

For those that aren't familiar with it, halon is heavier than air and will force out all the oxygen to starve the fire so it will go out. Which would make the crew unable to breathe and force them out.

That type of innovative thinking is what wins wars!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Possitively officer material!

I wouldn't insult GF that way ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Yeah Sorry GF, I didn't mean to say you didn't 'work for a living' in uniform!

Yeah, the Officers take credit for what the peons sweat and sacrifice for! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" /> (Of course, I realize that there are some good Officers as well!) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

And may we all honor and remember the sacrifices that occured 65 years ago at Pearl Harbor!

Well said Klink!!!


Respect!

Thank you L/F ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Hey Guys,

I'm new here.

I just got my knife (scrapper 6) that I ordered about 3 weeks ago. And again, this one is as dull as can be. I can't even cut paper with it. I can even get a firm grip on the edge with my bare hands (without cutting myself).

I know it's an old thread, but I just wanted to let everybody know. Overall the knife is awesome!

CZ

Welcome to the yard cz75! (Nice pistol too... though I'd prefer the '85). The Scrapper will sharpen up nicely EVENTUALLY, if you consider it a 'craft hobby' rather than a chore it'll even nearly be fun.. It's a great knife though! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Welcome CZ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

CZ - Howdy and Welcome to the Scrap Yard! It's about time you found your way here from the Swamp - really good bunch of folks here! Tom <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Hey guys,

Thanks for the welcome! Yes, it's me from the swamp....... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
I think the 75 is a bit better design, because of less failures of the slide catch (which occur more on the 85 model)

Anyway, I think it more then clear knives/survival etc are a hobby for me, so sharpening is almost fun to me.

I've used my Lansky set (Yes, I know... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> ) for 1.5hrs to reprofile it. It has worked for me in the past, so why not on the S6? I now have a Scrapper 6 that can push cut paper! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
The only complaint that I really have is the sheath. It's not a waste of money, but it's getting close...... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> It doesn't compliment the knife very well.......

Anyway, I think I'll wait for the shorter blades (I need a Howling R type of blade). Does anybody know when they are expected?

Thanks,
CZ

Welcome CZ 75!!

Welcome to the Yard CZ75!!

CZ did you get an order in for the S4 before they sold out?

The CZ75 is one of my favorite pistols...Wish CZ would make a 10mm!!!

Paul,

No I did not even order the S4. It's not my kind of cake.......:)

CZ

[color:"green"] Dan: THANK YOU for your input!! I really feel valued as a customer. [/color] <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />