154CM SkeleScrapper?

I know that we are all champing at the bit for the next great offering from the yard. I am.

I also know that with the way everything is going these days, there are more than a few wallets out there that need a little bit of time to cool down.

SO...

Is there any interest out there in a killer little blade from the Yard?

I am thinking 154CM, satin finish, 3/16ths or so thick, 3 inchish blade length, and SANS scales or resiprene c?

I would LOVE to carry a SY blade everyday, but sometimes a Scrapper 5 or larger is just a little bit too much for a typical days activities.



What do YOU think?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />

I'll take one....oh I don't count. It is an interesting idea that I have not given much consideration to. It will be good to hear what the yard thinks

Dan

i think it's brilliant.

I was just kind of thinking that it was an untapped niche for the Yard.

The 154CM with the Ohio magic would be the PERFECT steel for it.

we've been begging for a SkeleDawg for ages <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> "Under 30" remember <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I'll take two like always <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />.

good point but lets rememebr my memory skills, now wheres that glass of burbon\

cheers
Dan

Great idea! seems like alot of people here got a little burnt out on the last order but I am patiently waiting for my first big chopper from sy! Can't come soon enough!

We will have to see what we are lookin at here, price wise...

I can see myself ending up with slug of these things!

Now youre talkin. As a mechanic my 3 1/2 inch folder is as important as my right hand. I use it for evberything from opening parts boxes to cutting zip ties,stripping wire, prying open access tabs,cutting belts and hoses etc, you name it,it comes out of my pocket 10 times a day. A 3 1/2 inch,3/16 thick,7/8 inch deep,full grind, half serrated blade of 154CM with a 4 1/2 inch skeletonized handle in a fixed blade version is what ive been looking for for years. A lightweight,strong,edge holding,un-intimidating tool hanging on my belt right next to my LED maglite is what the best mechanic in New England needs. WOOF!

Pulling some people out of the woodwork here!

It could be called the "Dawg Bone" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I'm in for at least two... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

I love it!!! I'd take a couple too.

i kinda like hound tooth... im in for 2 as usual... maybe more... have to see what dan comes up with.... i already got a few neckers sitting around....

After EDCing a bad warden for a year, I would jump all over a 154cm in the 3" range. I like the 154cm on my Emerson's.

Almost rather see it with the res-c, but res-c with the same width and profile as a micarta GW or AD, keep the S5 monster truck texture though.

Serrations?

Choil?

we just gotta keep bumping this thread for a year or so. then Dan will make it.

Hmm I like it, and my plastic would like it.

I'd be all over this - not only as a great carry option, but think of all the mod work one could do. I'd love to put some work into crafting some nice handles for one of mine.

While I personally prefer folders to skellys, I know that quite a few dogs have been asking for a SY Skeleton handled knife for a long time. And 154CM is just about ideal for a small knife carried close to the body. I think it would be great in a survival kit, too. Just don't carry it to a government school, even locked in your car trunk. The idiots running the schools nowadays will freak out and make a federal case out of it.

ed: Oh, I almost forgot. Put a bottle opener on it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Not carry a neck knife into a school??

How come?

They would consider it a weapon. Might as well just go ahead and carry a Nuclear Argonne and an M-16.

Iowa law says nothing about that...so long as it isnt 5 inches or longer blade length.


I carried a knife to college and back in high school too, but it is pretty rural and that was 9 years or so ago.

Exactly! If Dan's memory is that short, maybe we need to "hound him" more. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> I agree a bottle opener would be cool. Something about the size of a Rat Shaker or Warden.

Iowa sounds enlightened. We used to carry pocket knives to school all the time in Georgia. We didn't go around stabbing each other. Now, in GA, any knife with a blade of 2" or more is prohibited even in a school zone. I guess I should throw my Rat Trap out the window every time I drive through one. Stupid laws passed by stupid people. Anyway, I hope Dan makes that neck knife for those who like them.

Sounds like a great idea.

HE double hocky sticks yes!kinda like the skelly key,but deeper.please Dan?

+1

Necker with an opener. Sweet.

Yeah, a 3 1/2 inch skelly, with a couple of holes pre drilled to further lighten the load and also allow EASY attachment of your own handle material! I've got some wild cherry My wife's dad cut in his saw mill before he died, been drying out for about 5 year now. That would be a FANTISTIC way to memorialize him (in my and my wife's eyes). Oh, Our previous pastor also made a pulpit and alter benches out of the same wood. Brought tears to all our eyes, Fuzzy was a pretty good fella and I will always miss him.

folder... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Im in for a necker or three.

We dont need no stinkin openers. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-open-a-bottle-of-beer-without-a-bottle-open/

Those will work in a pinch, but a bottle opener is much easier.

I'd buy one or two. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> A Scrap Yard necker would be cool. A bottle opener on the handle would be nice also. I think 154CM is perfect for such a knife. Could also offer them polished as LE's and in coated CG versions. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Bring em on!

I've got a CRKT Krein Dogfish and like it, it's super light and handy! A Yard skele around 3" blade in 3/16" stock 154CM but with a strong spear point tip, no choil and a finger guard like the Dogfish would be awesome! If Dan made a factory kydex (necker) sheath available with it, Christmas would come early!

I'd suggest three versions- FG = fugly (non coated, non satin finished , a sort of project version!) CG and LE.

However a Yard skele in kydex rules! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-baaaaaama clay?




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Something like this!!! Perfect for a necker or slide it in your pocket w/kydex!!!!!

I'm in on this, nix on the bottle opener though. You don't need one of those if its uncoated, the spine or pommel will do just fine for that. Less details = cheaper to make.

I would like to have a pocket/edc sized knife that I could have on me everyday. The SR Vex was pretty tempting but not quite what I'm wanting. I may get my sister a Izula at some point. Seems like something in that size would work for me.

i been edcing a hest.... but im a big guy and i dont wear neckers i put them in my pocket....

I am thinking something just a tad smaller than a HEST.

Really simple design, easy kydex sheath to go in the front pocket as a EDC.


I am not much for wearing knives around my neck, but I like neckers. Go figure.

Sounds real good. Great piggyback it with a larger blade. Make sure the handle design allows for a para wrap. Flat grind and even thinner, say 5/32. My Vex has become an all time favorite and it is mighty thin.

personally I dont like skele handles but a really small fixed blade would be cool to have. similar to a game warden but better.

A 3.25" inch blade about as thick as the S5 but make the skeletal handle shaped to accept a paracord wrap if someone wanted to add one. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

HAS to be serrated. its a tool

serrated? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" />

I hate serrated knives. Unless you cut a lot of fibrous material or can't sharpen they're not much use.

I only own one serrated knife on which I'm actually happy to have the serrations - a Spyderco Rescue. Of course, that's a super-specialty blade designed for cutting ropes and seatbelt webbing (and in my case carried for rock climbing). A sheepsfoot blade is about the only place serrations make sense to me.

i have a bread knife... and a rope knife.... but other then that no thank you to hard to deal with on a user

No serrations.

Ever.

I like to cut, not tear.







I even use a plain edge on bread...a sharp one works just fine.

I used to love serrated blades,but now that I have some sharp non-serrated blades I wont go back. Much easier to keep em sharp.

i would like a necker...w/ a "can" opener...bottles are too fancy


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That's what the point is for! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

I want one with a screwdriver, can opener, bottle opener, toothpick, tweezers, glass breaker, wood saw, corkscrew and knife blade. Put some plastic handles on it.

Great wish list HD, but I think someone already makes SEVERAL versions of your "dream knife" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />, but it's made in Northern Europe and MOST of the handle slabs are red for high visibility <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

I just picked up an Scapper 5 about two months ago. I love it, and I cant wait to get a new a new scrap yard knife. Whatever is next can you just tell us soon??? I need something else to spend my money on.... besides bourbon....

Welcome to the Yard! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I would say no to serrations, yucky. I would however like to see a stub for a window breaker and a place for a web-cutter even if I have to do that one myself. If the price it right I would not mind doing some self-mods. With my 6month old strapped in a strapped in seat etc. I am getting anxious about when, not if really, I live in Houston, we get into a not so easy to walk away from crash. Probably stupid but that is the way my mind is working right now.

I agree with no serrations or bottle opener. Sounds like a sweet design and Id definitly be in for one.

When can I send the money??

Small necker/pocket carry sounds great to me. I am with those who would prefer it plain. Bottle tops are twist off these days and serrations just get in my way. I think it would be easy to make it so people could add their own handles. Scrap Yard might increase revenue on it by offering a version with handles and or offering handle materials. If it is easy to work with and modify I am thinking many people will buy several.

I really don't like any of the "neck knives" I have bought, but for those who like them, I think they will sell well. The MPLE, HCLE and RC HEST are as small as I want in a fixed blade. My Rat Trap will still see much more use than any of them.

Same here. I gave away my Swamp Warden as a gift, and the owner loves it. A SY neck knife would make a great stocking stuffer, especially if it came with a kydex sheath.

If I got one it would have to have the sheath with it.

im not very fond of neck knives....they dangle all over if worn on a neck. as a collector itd be great to add, but for me personally....id have to pass. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Welcome to the Yard. You have a great start Knife1415.

I would hesitate in speculating the 'serial number' on the S5 Le equates in any way to the number actually produced. Seeing as the numbers were not imposed on the knives in any numerical order except no duplicates. I would guess that many/most of the <101 knives were filled but over that is likely anyone's guess.

For the Skelescrapper I would like to see the knife be <4" and have a thin kydex or like materiel that is shaped to fit like a pocket pistol holster. Neck carry will likely not get much use by me but a small, thin belt or pocket holster will likely make it a most used knife.

BTW I think the sheath should "not included."

I'd be down for a SY necker. I was thinking of buying an Izula anyway. Planning a big hiking tour for next year and I'd like a necker as a backup knife.

bruce, ive seen jeffs piggys! they are killer but i dont see myself ever using a sub 4" blade esp. if its not carbon steel. i have a PSK knife in O1 and keep it in mypouch.

i get more use from my SOD more than any other knife....food prep to splitting wood to cutting steaks and sharpening stakes AND opening beers! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


i prefer all fix blades to be carbon....folders stainless.


on the other hand...itd benice to havesomething that stays sharp for a while and can be tucked someplace like a wallet or something. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

but you cant use it as a striker for firesteel <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

lke i said though, it would be nice to have once to slip somewhere.....i guess my next concern would be the thickness of the blade.


3/16??? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

LOL! 3/16 would be perfect....now im getting a bit hyped!

This is lookin pretty popular!







C'mon Dan, what do you say?!?

I may be a dummy....but why not?

The more that I think about it, blade shape something similar to the Scotch Dispenser...


But WITHOUT the goofy handle!!

you need carbon to initiate the sparks...154cm is a stainless steel...lacking carbon to initiate the sparks.

I've been asking for a Skelly Necker since 2006!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Bring on the Skelly Dog! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" />


Peace.

I just had to try this.

Didnt have any trouble sparking a ferro rod with Benchmade 154CM in a old 705? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Seemed to work fine.

I really like the idea. I could use a couple of them in different situations.

Hey Toaster, nothing wrong (and I think we need to) go over "What If" happenings in our heads. It can give you an edge if something like that ever happens and we don't panic, that is REMEMBER what we have already gone over. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

tripton, sweet! it looks like benchmades 154cm carbon content is high enough to be useful!....i think ill try my grip out on some <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I will try my BM154CM next time I have the ferro rod out. I never thought of trying it.

I would be in for a 3-3.5 inch skeleton necker. I like the idea of a bottle opener, but I like the idea of a kydex sheath with it better.

I'm not a big skelly fan, as I've said before. However, I'd be interested in sub-Warden-sized neckers in 154CM. Dan would also probably do well with larger blades in either 154CM or SR101 (Swamp Wardens sold like hotcakes -- Eric never received enough to satisfy demand).

However, I'd only be interested in a necker if it didn't make a big bulge where the handle hits my belly; possibly something like to a Bearcub HACK size. I'd also want stain resistant steel because sweat is corrosive and a necker stays in contact with your skin. I already own a couple carbon steel neckers -- one that's compact/practical and one shaped like a curved straight-razor (I like it a lot -- the design is unusual and the handle has a very comfortable "organic" shape, but unfortunately, it's large enough that I'm obviously carrying something under my shirt).

That being said, I still think that Scrap Yard's Res-C handles are big part of why I like them, so I'd prefer that the handles be at least Res-C "dipped" to provide a more comfortable, positive grip.

Thanks for the feedback, its nice to know someone does not thing I am crazy for that. The Wife was finally shown my 888 Cop Tool and SOG Powerlock strap cutter and how to use them. She was 'fine' with them since I paid for them out of my personal account.


The idea of a Res-C dipped handle is great.

I'm not sure you can "dip" in the Res-C without filling the room with fumes and possibly killing someone. Perhaps just a fully coated knife would suffice so Dan could keep the costs down on this one and avoid the need for a new handle mold. The texturing alone would be enough to help hold a paracord wrap if someone wanted to add one later.

Thats a good point Recon, Itd be too easy to wrap a little knife and im more than willing to keep the right price point.

Besides, there's always plasti-dip. Don't like the color, cut it off and re-dip. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

It would be cool if Dan made several different styles of neckers.

yeah! one for beer, one with an ice pick/awl for mixed drinks, one with a pry-bar for getting to all the rest! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

W/D - I think you have been standing out in the rain too long! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

triton its cool you are in Iowa too. I'v seen several people with knife clips hanging out of their pockets in public school. I don't know if they are allowed but they do it none the less. The Laws are pretty lax here just no fixed blade over 5 inches in public.

Welcome to the Yard, knife1415.

Actually the law says no knife with a blade 5 inches or longer is to be concealed on or about the person. Doesnt say anything about fixed blades or open carry. It is also legal while hunting or fishing.

Concealed blades of 5 to 8 inches carry lesser penalty than 8 inches and larger. (simple vs serious misdimenor maybe?)


All moot to me...i have a carry permit, and in Iowa that covers all dangerous weapons (daggers, tasers, etc.).

Even better, huh? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

They've knocked the concealed length down to 3" blades here. What really sucks is that it wasn't too long ago you could carry up to a 4.5".
I was getting a pretty hard look from a state trooper today at lunch in the Arby's. I had the TT Reg. on my belt. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Anyone else want to put their 2 cents in here??

Either for OR against it...just looking for interest or disinterest.






























Just do NOT post any photoshops of your ideas about it...or we will have to scrounge up a posse!

I've been hoping for a Skelly Scrapper for some time. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

154cm, 3 inch blade, 3/16 thick works for me. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

I think an MPLE style with a Skelly handle would be good. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

i could definitely go for that, though i must say i do like SR101 alot...

id like a coated blade, and seeing as its just silly to coat 154cm i think itd be good.

im a huge fan of the swamp warden too...

I would like that but I would Really like to see the DM or SS4!

I could go for one as well. I already have the Skeleton Key, bring on the SkeleScrapper!!

I will take one too.
While you are getting yours, Dan, get us a few.
Sounds like a great idea.

It would be awesome. I have two swamp wardens, and one is usually with me thrown in whatever bag i'm toting around, but i'd swap them out in a second for a dog bone.

Any more dogs out there that want to throw an opinion at this??

yea. bring it already. lol

I think it would be a good idea. MAYBE put a bolt hole up by the blade and at the pommel end so scales could be put on it if wanted.

Oh, and make it AT LEAST 3 1/4 inchs of edge length.

idk about that, for a necker if you get the overall length too long itll kinda ruin the point of it. Id rather have a full grip with a bit of a shorter blade than more blade and less handle (to keep OAL down)

+1 something about the simplicity of a small skeleton handled knife is really appealing.

1/8" thick.

I'll grab at leat 2 if they're thin, at least one as long as they are .22 or less. I'm with Mag though. .125x3.25 would be great

I agree that the 1/8" thick blade would make it a sweet little knife

Yeah, on 2nd thought Youse guys probably right. 1/8 on something this small would work out fine. And I DO agree with the longer handle part. Go ahead and make it 3 inches.

No way. 1/8th inch aint no Scrap Yard blade.



We need 3/16ths to keep it Scrap Yard tough.

More importantly though, I am not sure how comfortable it would be to hold onto with a superskinny 1/8th inch handle.


Lets go 3/16ths inch, with a full flat blade grind.


Hows that?

Well Trip, that was my first thought. Then I remembered my Assault Shaker it's short handle. If I had MY preference, it would be 3/16 blade 3 1/4 inches long(nothing smaller than 3 inch edge with 3 3/4 to 4 inch handle and yes, full flat ground.

My vote is for a scaled down SAR4 style with 3 1/4 inch blade. We should compromise on a thickness of 5/32. Blade material should be CPM154 or D2. For me that would be a great utility knife. I also like the idea of screw holes to allow folks to add their own scales, if desired. What do you guys think about that?

I dont think we will be seeing any cpm154 out of Bussekin. They have done a few runs out of 154cm...and it is awesome.

Their D2 has yet to be tested by me...til this years deer season that is. I am saving my Vex until I get a whitetail or 3.

I want a Scrap Yard skinny. Couple that with a Buy Brown neck sheath and I think we have a winner--that is a winner, winner, chicken dinner!

Something would have to be terribly, terribly wrong for me not to pick up a few of these...however they would come out.

A knife that I could carry in my pocket, piggyback, or wear iwb. A skel knife with a 2 1/2" convex edge & 3 1/2"-3 3/4" handle that could be wrapped with paracord or attach slabs . The dipped handle is a great idea or maybe slabs of Res-C with a liner attached that can be bolted to the handle could be offered as an option.
Is it here yet???

not a fan of screw holes, they can come loose under regular use.

i still say 1/8". instead of steel, make it out of glass.

The Bird Dog LE, the best slicer Scrap Yard has ever produced, was 1/8 of an inch thick.


And it's a lot longer than a necker.


1/8 is where it's at! Rat Cutlery has the same warranty as Scrap Yard, and the RC-3 is 1/8 of an inch thick too.




Make a knife that actually cuts, and I'll be all over it.

Yeah, and I love, LOVE my RATs.

But...the Bird dog has a big comfortable handle, and the RC3 does too. I am afraid that if a skeleton handle is too skinny, it would be like gripping the business end of a butter knife.

The Izula is thicker than 1/8, and is a great compromise between toughness and slice ability. Cuts like a demon.

Still, it is much, much more comfortable with a paracord wrap.


I'll just come out and say it...I want a SY "necker" that is very, very similar to an Izula in Bussekin 154CM. That would be the end all hard use EDC work knife for me.

i guess i've had enough infi and sr77 and whatever other overbuilt knives to have had my fill of "hard use." get a wonderbar or a widgy if you want something small you can pry with. maybe one of those fancy tactical pens or a kubaton for pounding.

I guess I dont really pry with any knife, sans my SOD and Dogfather, to get them out of knots and the like.






Hey, I am just saying what I would like, which is not necessarily what the Yard would like.

Hopefully, there is a lot of good input here that a proper knife designer can put to good use!...and release!

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3/16"x3" Room for paracord. 154cm. That would be SWEET!

how thick are the swamp wardens?

I could handle that... an EDC that could pull its weight... Scrap Yard Style...

Doc

1/8" skelescrapper would be perfect for a small necker knife.

A SY Necker would be absolute FRRRRRANTASTIC!!!!!

Oh, and I'd get one, even in my state of depleted funds.
I'm sure there's some way to generate the funds....hehe..


Cheers

this will probably be an un-popular answer but I much prefer a folder over a skele knife. For safety reasons mainly

i don't think anyone here would mind if Dan put out a folder, would we?

I would like a SY folder

must have SY folder!!!!

Yes...

154CM

3/16 stock

3.5 inch plain edge full flat grind blade

drop point - please! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

8.5 overall

Skeleton but with mounting holes for scales if you want 'em.

Not at all. I most likely would get more EDC out of a folder than a necker anyways.

A folder would be sweet!!!

something small would be nice, easier to carry anyway.