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One stop Survival shop #1033315 10/09/15 08:40 AM
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A compilation of Architect's BOB/GHB posts. More will be added as I find them. Thanks Gary!

Since I joined the Yard I've often spoke of my interest in survival related topics (and even posted about it a few times). This has generated a lot of questions so I thought a BRIEF thread about what I think constitutes a good "Bug Out Bag" could help address many of these questions. A lot of this information is redundant from previous threads, because this is what I have found to work for me.

Before we get into the Bag Contents, I wanted to VERY QUICKLY discuss a couple of other issues....

The Bug Out Bag

Your survival plan MUST include the ability to quickly evacuate on foot. This should be a last resort, because your other gear / shelter / food / ammo is at your home. However, if something happens that makes staying put ("Bugging In") too dangerous then you need to be ready to move - on foot - if necessary.

You cannot overload your BOB to a point as to not allow confident HIGH SPEED movement over broken ground. As a result, I do not ever recommend a ruck load over 45 pounds. This 45 pounds is in addition to the clothes you are wearing, boots, firearms and ammo, and Belt Order.

Therefore, a larger "Three Day" ruck should be adequately sized. I prefer the Tactical Tailor "Three Day Plus".

The Belt Order

The Belt Order is designed as a "mini-survival kit". This is to be on you at ALL TIMES! You can leave your ruck in camp while you forage / set up traps / fish or hunt / use the bathroom / scout / etc as long as you do not take off the belt order! The contents of a survival belt order usually include:

1. USGI or Improved Civilian Equivalent Pistol Belt - this is NOT used to hold up your trousers. This is to be worn OVER your trouser belt.
2. Handgun Holster
3. Handgun Magazine Pouches
4. PSK (Personal Survival Kit) with:

4a) USGI Canteen Cup.

4b) 550 Cord (50 feet in ADDITION to the 100 feet in your BOB).

4c) Survival Straw.

4d) Lighter (this is in ADDITION to the lighter in your BOB).

4e) Firesteel.

4f) Tinder (this is in ADDITION to the tinder in your BOB).

4g) Knife Sharpener.

4h) Space Blanket.

4i) Bandanna.

4j) Compass.

4k) Water Purification Tablets (4 in addition to the tablets in your BOB).

5. Small & Medium Fixed Blade Knifes (more on this later).

6. Trauma Kit (more on this later).

Now that we've addressed those issues, lets move on to the BOB itself....

The Main Areas of Survival Concern include:

FIRE
SHELTER
WATER
FOOD
DEFENSE
FIRST AID

In a "non-shooting" survival situation the above list is placed in order of importance. "Exposure" (hypothermia) will kill you faster than dehydration. Dehydration will kill you faster than starvation, etc.

The survival adage is "3 is 2, 2 is 1, 1 is 0", and as such I believe in gear redundancy. Some gear can serve "multiple roles", but I've found those products to be gimmicky. A great example is the folding knives that also have a firesteel in them. The knives are of poor quality, and the firesteel is hard to access.

Regardless, survivalism is about the RULE OF THREE:

3 Minutes Without Air = Death
3 Hours Without Shelter = Death
3 Days Without Water = Death
3 Weeks Without Food = Death
3 Months Without Hope = Death

Therefore, lets take each category in turn. I'll list the products that I've thoroughly tested and recommend. EVERYTHING will have "triple redundancy":

FIRE

Fire is everything in a survival situation. It provides warm, comfort, and protection. It also enables you to boil water, cook food, harden wood for bushcraft tools, and signal for help.

1) LIGHTER!

A name brand butane lighter is the easiest way to start a fire. The "Bic" brand is what I use. However, these are not without fault. In cold weather they can fail, and if improperly stored - they will loose their butane.

2) FIRESTEEL!

A name brand firesteel is a critical piece of kit. I prefer the "Light My Fire" brand, because they last longer than others I've tried. These take a little practice to master, but once mastered can start a fire in a torrential down pour. My wife will attest to this, because it saved us in one about two years ago.

3) TINDER!

3a) TRIOXANE FUEL TABS!

The easiest tinder to use is Trioxane fuel tabs. These are available on the military surplus market, but are heavy and have a limited shelf life. I recommend carrying ONE tab for "last resort" fire building.

3b) PETROL COTTON!

Go to WalMart's photo development department and ask for a bag of free 35mm film canisters. Take the free canisters home, and fill them with cotton balls that you've rubbed in Vasoline. These will take an INSTANT spark from your firesteel, and will burn for a long time.

3c) CANDLE!

Wal-Mart sells "9 Hour Emergency Candles" in a three pack. I keep one of these in each of my kits, because once lit..they will burn for a very long time. They can also serve to provide small task lighting in camp (when a big fire is prohibited by light control, and your flashlight/headlamp batteries are dead).

3d) MAGNESIUM!

Everyone's seen the mag-bars. I do not recommend them. I do not recommend them. The shavings burn too fast and erratically.

4) BACK UP PLAN! You need a back up plan in case all else fails.

4a) MATCHES!

Buy a $1 waterproof match case at Wal-Mart and fill it with wooden "lifeboat strike anywhere" matches. These are my "last resort" firestarters. As such, I do not use them unless all else has failed.

SHELTER

If you haven't been hypothermic listen to me carefully. I have been hypothermic on a couple of occasions. Each time was a FAILURE on a survival training mission. If you think that you can "tough it out" by throwing a poncho on the ground, and getting in a quick nap - YOU ARE SADLY MISTAKEN. The ground will rob you of heat faster than water. If you get wet (and are in the wrong materials) you will die - this is even a possibility when its warm during the day. Being cold will also cause you to burn calories (always in short supply in an emergency).

Once hypothermia starts to set in you must react before your mental capabilities diminish. It is far better to prevent hypothermia than to recover from it.

1) PONCHO!

The USGI ripstop poncho is a critical piece of kit. If I had to take four items to survive off the land it would be: Bussekin Knife, LMF Firesteel, Canteen Cup, and the USGI Poncho. These are getting harder to find, but do not accept a civilian substitute. This poncho will be your basha, ground cover, rain protection, solar still, emergency liter (for transporting injured people), and more.

2) 550 CORD!

Except no substitute for SEVEN STRAND 550 parachute cord. You need at least 100 feet of it, and more is better. Learn how to tie knots too. This stuff is INVALUABLE in the field. It can be used for shelter making, bow string, trot line, fishing line (pull the strands out of the shell), first aid (splints, cravats, more), big game drag handle, snare making, and more.

3) MSS (Modular Sleep System)

3a) BIVY BAG! I've humped around tents in the past, and they are not for me. I want to be mobile so my max ruck load is around 45 pounds. (I am 5'10" tall and weigh about 180#. I'm athletically built, and fit). A tent weighs too much and offers too little in return. You must judge the weight-to-benefit of each piece of kit you're considering. As a result, I've come to LOVE the USGI "bivy bag". Its large enough for the biggest guy to fit in, is waterproof, and breathes.

3b1) SLEEPING BAGS!

The MSS system has two bags - one for cool weather and one for cold weather. When used togehter inside the bivy bag you're good for about 4-6 hours of sleep in -30F weather!

Some people live in climates that do not require the sleeping bags. For them I recommend the:

3b2) USGI PONCHO LINER / WOOBIE!

This liner can be worn under your poncho for "standing shelter" warm, or you can wrap up in it inside the bivy bag to create a fair weather sleeping bag.

4) BACK UP PLAN! You need a back up plan in case all else fails.

4a) GORETEX PARKA AND TROUSERS!

Buy the best you can afford. I like REAL USGI (not "authorized copies") due to the durability, but they are heavier than civilian products.

4b) POLYPROPYLENE & WOOL!

These will insulate even when wet. Cotton kills, and should be avoided.

WATER

The essence of life. Respect your ability to MAKE POTABLE DRINKING WATER! Getting diarrhea or vomiting because you drank contaminated water just makes your prospects of dying from dehydration greater.

1) CANTEEN CUP!

This stainless steel USGI jewel is about $5, and is invaluable. Avoid the older style with an "L Shaped" handle. Find the "wire butterfly handle model". This is your primary cooking and drinking vessle. It can be used to boil water, cook food, and even be a signal mirror if you polish a surface that won't be blackened by field use.

2) PUMP FILTER!

I do not recommend anything that requires batteries. I like name brand pump filters. The Katadyn Hiker is the base model. Its light and realitively cheap. I've used them for years. The "Rolls Royce" is the Katadyn Pocket. At $225 its not for the budget minded, but if properly cared for it will produce 13000 gallons of drinking water. I've had mine since 1999, and it is still 100% good to go.

3) WATER BOTTLE!

You must be able to carry water from place to place. Even if you're in an area with abundant water you need the ability to transport it in case the water is becomes too toxic in your current location. I like 32oz Nalgene Bottles (BPA Free preferred), because they don't leak and are nearly indestructible. They are also marked for measuring ounces which is handy when making frieze dried meals.

4) BACK UP PLAN! You need a back up plan in case all else fails.

4a) COLLAPSIBLE WATER BOTTLE OR HYDRATION BLADDER!

Either buy a 3L SOURCE brand bladder or a 1L Platypus brand collapsible bottle. DO NOT SETTLE FOR ANYTHING ELSE. I've used over 20 brands of products and these are the best.

4b) PURIFICATION TABLETS!

Do NOT buy a bottle of these at Wal-Mart. Buy the type that are in single serve blister packs. I prefer Katadyn. These tablets will kill everything in your water, but have limited shelf life and are heat sensitive.

4c) SURVIVAL STRAW!

At $10 delivered the AquaMira "Frontier Filter" is a no-brainer. Its good for around 20 gallons (maybe more if you pre-filter), and is tiny. At around 1 ounce you really can't afford to not have one in your kit.

NOTE: I prefer to keep the TABLETS and SURVIVAL STRAW in my PSK. This is a small survival kit that goes on my body instead of in my ruck. This allows me to leave the ruck in camp while I use the bathroom, forage for food / firewood, etc.

FOOD

You need calories and fat to stay warm, think clearly, and remain on the move.

1) LIFEBOAT RATIONS!

I've researched and tried them all. I like 3600 calorie MainStay brand, because they are the smallest for the calorie amount and taste decent. Their fat content is high too. YOU WANT FAT IN YOUR SURVIVAL DIET. All of the "I'm going to live off the land" types ignore the reality of RABBIT STARVATION. Game is too lean for constant human consumption so you have to supplement your diet with fat. We require fat to digest some foods and absorb some vitamins and minerals.

2) FRIEZE DRIED MEALS!

Mountain House the best I've tried overall. They are easy to make, and do not even require clean up. You just boil water in your canteen cup and then dump it in the pouch / stir / wait. Select products that sound good and try them before you settle on that particular meal. For example, the "Scrambbled Eggs" are AWFUL and should be avoided, but the "Chili Mac", "Lasagna" and "Spaghetti" are very good. Since these foods have no water you're saving weight.

3) OATMEAL!

Oatmeal packets are small and somewhat light. They are easy to make, and full of sugar which equals quick energy. I consider these "comfort" food, but they are a great way to start the survival morning.

4) BACK UP PLAN! You need a back up plan in case all else fails.

4a) FISHING KIT!

I like to keep a minimum of 110yds of 12-15# NAME BRAND fishing line, and an assortment of QUALITY hooks and lures in my kits. This allows me to tree fish, soda can fish, and trot line fish. If someone is interested, I'll post a complete list of my kit's contents.

4b) TRAPPING!

You must weigh the energy spent vs the energy gained for all hunting / gathering activities. This is why I prefer passive fishing and trapping to hunting. Your fishing line and 550 cord will serve you well in a trapping capacity. However, you need to learn how to make dead falls, figure 4's, etc. This takes PRACTICE! Don't just read a book or watch a show - get out there and make them!

4c) HUNTING!

A 22 rifle (preferred) or 22LR handgun (acceptable) is going to put a lot more meat in your pot than they guy that thinks he's going to continually bag "big game". Remember, EVERYONE else that isn't prepared is out there hunting for big game. You're chances of killing a deer/elk/caribou/moose/whatever are a lot slimmer than having a dangerous run-in with someone who didn't prepare.

4d) FORAGING!

The tools required for this aren't stored in your BOB - they're stored in your head. Learn edible plants in your AO TODAY. Get expert training because mistakenly identifying a plant can be fatal. Remember the SAS rule: 1) Touch it to your skin and watch for a rash. WAIT. 2) Touch it to your tongue and watch for a bad reaction. WAIT. 3) Nibble a little and spit it out. WAIT. 4) Eat a small amount and watch for a bad reaction. WAIT. 5) Enjoy your new found food source.

DEFENSE

1) KNIFE!

This is first on my list because its the most practical tool in your arsenal. Its not what I want to fight with, but it is DEFENSE AGAINST STARVATION / DEATH FROM EXPOSURE. I believe in a "trifecta of blades" meaning:

1a) SMALL FIXED BLADE!

The Scrap Yard "Scrapivore" or Swamp Rat "Rodent Solution" fit perfectly here. I just switched from a SW Warden to the Rodent Solution. This is your detail knife for caping game, cutting vegetables, trimming cordage, etc.

1b) MEDIUM FIXED BLADE!

The Scrap Yard "S5" or Swamp Rat "RMD" are perfect. This is your belt order / everything knife.

1c) CHOPPER!

The Scrap Yard "Dog Father" is my choice. This 10" ruck carried beast will make shelter, prepare firewood, and fend off beasts (if all else fails).

2) HANDGUN!

I'm a rifleman, but a handgun can be with you 24/7. Wear this on your belt order, and do not leave camp without it!

Select a common caliber like 38 Special, 9mm, 40SW, 45Acp. I prefer 9mm, because the military uses it - which means it will always be available (as long as there is a government).

I prefer Glock handguns, because they are indestructible and require very little maintenance.

3) RIFLE!

Again choose something common like a 22LR, 223/5.56x45mm or 308/7.62x51mm. The Russian 7.62x39mm is a great cartridge, but are you EVER going to find it after the balloon goes up? You might find a slimy supply clerk who is willing to barter something for an ammo can of military 5.56 or 7.62x51mm....

NOTE: Choose a proven platform and train with it. Buy THE VERY BEST QUALITY even if it means having less guns or having to wait to get it. I prefer AR15 (Bravo Company and Colt), AK101(Arsenal SLR-106FR), and the mighty FAL (DS Arms). Again, learn your weapon!

FIRST AID

Its amazing how fast something can get infected while in the bush! If you don't have First Aid Training - sign up at your local Red Cross this week. I currently have five certifications, and am always looking for something else to add.

Here are the basics of your TRAUMA KIT. This isn't an off the shelf boo-boo kit that goes in your ruck. This is on the outside of your ruck or preferrably on your belt order:

1) HEMOSTATIC!

You have to stop bleeding. Blood loss will result in shock and death. DO NOT BUY THE GRANULATED PRODUCTS! They are difficult to remove from a wound. I like QuikClot's "Combat Sponge".

2) TQ!

The tourniquet will save your life. Have at least one, but two is better. The best made is the C.A.T. (Combat Application Tourinuuet).

3) CHEST SEAL!

Buy an Asherman, and research how to use it. Do not buy a Hyfin.

4) CRAVAT!

This is a simple, but affective item to have.

5) IZZY BANDAGE!

Select one that is large enough to wrap around YOUR chest. The Isreali is a compression bandage.

6) H&H COMPRESSED GAUZE!

Two should suffice.

7) GAUZE!

I like 4x4's because they're big enough to get the job done. Keep them in ziplock bags (in their original packaging).

8) NASAL!

The naso-pharyngeal airway tube gets inserted through the nose and into the throat when a person can't breath through their mouth due to an injury. It can be used on throat injuries too. YOU NEED LUBE to get these inserted. Tape a packet of surgical lube to the Naso packaging.

9) DECOMP NEEDLE!

The ARS DN is a chest decompression needle. I am not trained on one so I do not include them. If your training includes them - add it. OTHERWISE DO NOT ATTEMPT TO USE ONE OF THESE!

10) SALINE!

Add a couple of ampules of saline for eye washes.

11) GLOVES!

You need to avoid blood borne pathogens!

12) CLEAN & PROTECT!

Packets of BURN CREAM, ALCOHOL PADS, IODINE PADS, etc. Anti-bacterial First Aid Cream is critical for field cuts.

13) MEDS!

I keep Cipro in my kit for heavy infections. There is also NSAIDs, Aspirin (heart attack), Antihistamines, Lopermide (anti-diarrhea), etc. If you require a prescription - keep some in your kit! I also keep a couple of sting relief pads.

FIRST AID NOTE OF CAUTION: I maintain Red Cross Community First Aid, First Aid, Blood Borne Pathogen, and advanced (outside vendor) trauma training. I also have a very good friend who is an EMT (14 years) and Professional Firefighter (11 years) who has helped my training. YOU MUST SEEK PROFESSIONAL TRAINING! DO NOT ATTEMPT TO USE MEDICAL DEVICES AND TECHNIQUES BEYOND YOUR LEVEL OF TRAINING!

MISCELLANEOUS GEAR

The following items are always included in my kits, but are hard to categorize:

1. LED Headlamp with Spare Batteries.

2. Map of AO.

3. Playing Cards - I prefer the type with survival or knot tying information on them.

4. Mosquito Head Net.

5. 3pc Mess Kit - I very much like the East German Aluminum Kit. Its a good "long term survival item". The Canteen Cup works too, but the Mess Kit makes life easier.

6. 2pc Mess Utensils - Have you tried carving a spoon? I have. Buy a QUALITY spoon and fork and add them to your kit. I typically find the Ti (titanium) products to be too small, but very much like the Guyot Designs "large utensil" set.

7. Trash Bags - these are shelter, food protection and storage, solar stills, water collectors, ponchos and more.

8. Ziplock Bags - these are good for water storage, food storage, keeping your small items dry, etc. Use the "Freezer Weight" bags.

9. Clothes - I keep the following clothing items in my rucks:

9a. Socks - At least two pair of wool for summer and two pair of heavy wool for winter. I also like to keep a pair of polypropylene liners in my BOB because it cuts down on blisters / friction and moves moisture away from the feet.

9b. Wool Hat - This is a MANDATORY item.

9c. Leather Work Gloves with Removable Wool Liners - I use USGI because they are inexpensive and durable.

9d. Polypro Shirt & Drawers - I prefer to keep Medium Weight in my ruck. These are good as added layers for evenings where you're not moving around.

9e. Jungle Hat - I keep a MultiCam camo "jungle hat" in my ruck. A hat that protects your neck and face is a critical item.

10. Weapons Cleaning Kit - Even if you have an AK you need to maintain your weapon.

10a. Lubricant - I like Slip2000 EWL for all of my lubricating needs. This is the stuff made famous during the BCM Filthy 14 torture.

10b. Cleaning Rod - A lot of people are moving toward flexible bore cleaners (Otis kits and Bore Snakes). However, these are WORTHLESS if you have a bore obstruction! Therefore, I highly recommend a USGI sectional cleaning rod with patch holder. You can use the rod to remove stuck cases, etc as well as to clean your bore.

10c. Patches - sized appropriately for your caliber.

10d. Bore Brush - sized appropriately for your caliber.

10e. Receiver Brush - USGI is the best, but a civilian toothbrush will also work. I prefer "child sized" if going to civy brush route.

10f. Chamber Brush - USGI M16 for 5.56 and USGI M14 for 7.62x51mm.

10g. Pipe Cleaners - AR15 users you do NOT need these! I've never used one!

10h. AR15 Bolt Assembly - I keep a spare bolt in my kit, because this is the primary failure item on the AR platform. (I actually keep one in my MagPul MOE pistol grip with a MagPul "bolt / pin" removable core. This enables me to keep a spare bolt and firing pin "on board" the weapon).

11. Communications - You might want to keep abreast of news after "it" happens. The ability to communicate with other survivors could also be of value.

11a. CRANK RADIO - We have an Eton emergency crank radio in our vehicle. Its rather large and slightly heavy so it does not go in our BOB. However, you might consider adding one to your vehicle.

11b. 2 WAY RADIOS - We have Midland 18.9 mile two-way radios clipped to the webbing on our BOB's (and I have a Silva Tech 4.0 Solar Charging Array to recharge the batteries). However, we've found ourselves wanting to shed ruck weight and these are typically the first to go. Nonetheless, the ability to communicate is very important. I HIGHLY recommend you research the topic before selecting a product. It isn't difficult to triangulate your location based upon your broadcasts, but GRS type devices don't broadcast a great distance. Regardless, security is a concern you should consider.



I wrote this from memory and probably forgot a few things, but hopefully this will help address people's concerns. I'm very thankful that some of you are taking your own security seriously, and thinking about building a quality survival kit!

PERSONAL SURVIVAL KIT (PSK)

This is on my person nearly 100% of the time (except in the shower or while sleeping). If you asked me to empty my pockets right now this is what I'd pull out:

(1) Ferro Rod, LMF Army Model
(1) Flashlight, Leatherman Serac S3
(1) Battery, SureFire CR123
(1) Folding Blade Knife, Spyderco Delica4
(1) Swiss Army Knife, Victorinox Hiker

* I also routinely carry a handgun with at least (2) spare magazines.

EVERYDAY CARRY KIT(EDC)

This "pouch kit" goes with me everywhere. It sits on my desk at work, goes with me to job sites, etc. Basically, this small kit allows me to travel light and inconspicuously but with more advanced survival gear. My wife carries an ideal kit.

Carry Pouch

(1) Small General Purpose Pouch, Diamondback Tactical (CB)

Fire Making

(1) Butane Lighter, Bic Classic
(1) Ferro Rod, LMF Army Model

First Aid & Hygiene

(3) Bandages, Assorted Adhesive
(1) Sanitation Wipes, Germ-X Singles

Food

(1) Emergency Ration, 1200 Calorie MayDay

Navigation & Signaling

(1) Compass, Engineers
(1) Flashlight, Guidesman LED
(2) Batteries, Energizer AA
(1) Flashlight, Streamlight Nano LED
(1) Marker, Sharpie Industrial
(1) Whistle, Generic

Shelter

(10f) ParaCord, 7-Strand 550
(1) Poncho, Emergency
(1) Survival Blanket, Emergency
(1) Trash Bag, 1Mil 39 Gallon

Tools

(1) Can Opener, USGI P38
(10) Duct Tape, Wrapped on Business Card
(1) Knife - Small, SYKCO Scrapivore
(1) Sheath, Mashed Cat Kydex
(1) Knife - Swiss Army, Wenger Highlander
(1) Knife Sharpener, Gatco Triseps
(1) Knife Sharpener, Gerber Ceramic

Water

(1) Emergency Water Filter, AquaMira Frontier
(1) Water Bottle, Platypus 1L Collapsible
(1 btl) Water Purification Tablets, Portable Aqua
(2) Water Purification Tablets, Katadyn

* I also carry a 32oz Nalgene BPA free water bottle EVERYWHERE I go.


GET HOME BAG (GHB)

We each keep one of these in our 4x4 SUV's. The idea is to use the contents to GET HOME in an emergency.

Gear

(1) Versipack, Maxpedition Jumbo (K)

Apparel, Wool (Store in Dry Sack)

(1) Cap, Watch-Type 100% Wool (B)
(1 pr) Glove Liners, USGI Wool (OD)
(1 pr) Socks, Cold Weather Wool

Fire Making

(1) Butane Lighter, Bic Classic
(1) Candle, UCO Emergency 9-Hour
(1) Matches, Strike Anywhere in Waterproof Match Case
(1) Tinder Bottle, Film Canister with Petrol Cotton

First Aid & Hygiene

(3) Bandages, Assorted Adhesive
(1) Hemostatic, QuikClot Sport
(3) Sanitation Wipes, Germ-X Singles
(1 pkt) Tissue, Travel Size
(1) Tourniquet, North American Rescue CAT

Food

(2) Emergency Ration, 1200 Calorie MayDay
(20) Fishing Hooks, Eagle #2
(110y) Fishing Line, 10# or 14# Trilene
(1) Spork, Light My Fire

Navigation & Signaling

(1) Flashlight, MagLite MiniMag AA
(4) Batteries, Energizer AA
(1) Headlamp, Coleman LED
(6) Batteries, Energizer AAA

Shelter

(1) Cap, Watch-Type 100% Wool (B)
(50f) ParaCord, 7-Strand 550
(1) Survival Blanket, Adventure Medical Kits 2 Person
(1) Survival Blanket, Generic
(1) Trash Bag, 1Mil 39 Gallon

Tools

(1) Knife - Large (Gary's Wife), SYKCO 511
(1) Sheath, Kydex
(1) Knife - Large (Gary), SRKW RMD
(1) Sheath, Kydex
(1) Knife Sharpener, Lansky Dog Bone

Water

(1) Canteen Cup, USGI
(1) Pre Filter, Bandana
(1) Water Purification Bottle, Berkey Sports
(1) Ziplock Bag, 1 Gallon Freezer


BUG OUT BELT

As stated before, this is a condensed version of the Bug-Out-Bag that can be worn at all times while in a "bug-out". It can be used alone, but is really intended to be used in conjunction with the Bug-Out-Bag.

Gear

(1) Belt, Padded MOLLE
(1) E&E Pouch, Medium GP
(1) Holster, Tactical Tailor Modular
(1) IFAK Pouch, Small Medic
(1) Hydration Pouch, Tactical Tailor Joey
(1) Magazine Pouch - Handgun, Triple
(1) Miscellaneous Pouch, 6"x4"
(1) Sheath, Spec-Ops Long Combat Master
(1) Shelter Pouch, 10"x6"
(1) Shelter Pouch, Large GP

Ammunition & Spare Magazines

(550) 22 Long Rifle Ammunition, Federal 36gr HVHP
(1) Storage Bottle, Nalgene 16oz
(4) Rifle Magazine (Wife only), Ruger 10rd

Fire Making (Stored In Red Zipper Pouch)

(1) Butane Lighter, Bic Classic
(1) Candle, UCO Emergency 9-Hour
(1) Ferro Rod, LMF Army Model
(1) Matches, Strike Anywhere in Waterproof Match Case
(2) Tinder Bottle, Film Canister with Petrol Cotton

First Aid & Hygiene

(1) Airway, Nasopharyngeal 28 with Lube
(3) Antibiotic Ointment
(6) Anti-Diarrhea, 2mg EXPIRES 1/13
(10) Bandages, Assorted Adhesive
(6) Benadryl, 25mg EXPIRES 2/14
(1) Burn Cream
(1) Compressed Gauze, H&H
(1) Compression Bandage, Israeli
(1) Floss, Travel Size
(4) Gauze, Sterile
(1) Hemostatic, QuikClot Combat Sponge
(1) Hydrocortisone Cream
(8) Ibuprofen, 200mg EXPIRES 1/13
(1) Insect Protection, Lotion
(1) Light Stick, Cyalume
(1) Moleskin
(3) Prep Pads, Alcohol
(3) Sanitation Wipes, Germ-X Singles
(1) Sunscreen, Lotion
(1) Tape, Adhesive Surgical 2"
(1) Tourniquet, North American Rescue CAT
(3) Wound Closure Strips, Butterfly

Food

(1) Emergency Ration, 3600 Calorie Mainstay
(20) Fishing Hooks, Eagle #2
(110y) Fishing Line, 10# or 14# Trilene

Navigation & Signaling

(1) Compass, Silva Starter
(1) Headlamp, Coleman LED
(6) Batteries, Energizer AAA
(1) Whistle, Generic

Shelter

(1) Cap, Watch-Type 100% Wool (B)
(100f) ParaCord, 7-Strand 550
(1) Poncho, USGI Ripstop (WD)
(1) Survival Blanket, Emergency Essentials
(1) Trash Bag, 1Mil 39 Gallon

Tools

(1) Can Opener, USGI P38
(10) Duct Tape, Wrapped on Business Card
(1) Knife - Large (Wife), SYKCO SOD
(1) Knife - Large (Gary), SRKW Chopweiler
(1) Knife - Small, SRWK Warden
(1) Sheath, Kydex
(1) Knife Sharpener (Gary Only), Stone
(1) Knife Sharpener, Lansky Dog Bone
(1) Knife Sharpener, Gerber Ceramic

Water

(1) Canteen Cup, USGI
(1) Emergency Water Filter, AquaMira Frontier
(1) Pre Filter, Bandana
(1) Water Bottle, Nalgene 32oz
(1) Water Filter, Katadyn Hiker
(1 btl) Water Purification Tablets, Portable Aqua
(4) Water Purification Tablets, Katadyn
(1) Ziplock Bag, 1 Gallon Freezer


BUG OUT BAG

This provides more consumables and comfort than the BO-Belt.

Gear

(1) Ruck, Tactical Tailor 3-Day Plus

Apparel, Miscellaneous

(1 pr) Gloves, USGI Leather

Apparel, Polypropylene (Store in Dry Sack)

(1) Polypropylene Balaclava, USGI ECWCS
(1) Polypropylene Pants, USGI ECWCS
(1) Polypropylene Shirt, USGI ECWCS

Apparel, Wet Weather

(1) Parka, USGI Gen3 Gore-Tex ECWCS
(1) Trousers, USGI Gen3 Gore-Tex ECWCS

Apparel, Wool (Store in Dry Sack)

(1 pr) Glove Liners, USGI Wool
(2 pr) Socks, All Weather Wool
(2 pr) Socks, Cold Weather Wool

Battery & Battery Charging (Gary Only)

(1) Solar Battery Charger, Silva Tech 4.0
(8) Rechargeable Batteries, Energizer AAA
(4) Rechargeable Batteries, Energizer AA

Fire

(2) Butane Lighter, Bic Classic
(1) Magnesium Bar with Hacksaw Blade, Doan
(4) Tinder Bottle, Film Canister with Petrol Cotton

Firearm Cleaning Kit

(2) Bore Brush, 5.56
(2) Bore Brush (Gary Only), 7.62
(1) Bore Brush, 9mm
(2bag) Bore Patch, 5.56
(1bag) Bore Patch (Gary Only), 7.62
(1) Chamber Brush, 5.56x45mm
(4oz) Lubricant, SLiP2000 Extreme Weapons Lube
(1) Receiver Brush, USGI
(1) Rifle Cleaning Rod, USGI 5pc with Patch Holder

Food - Fishing & Hunting

(550) 22 Long Rifle Ammunition, Federal 36gr HVHP
(1) Storage Bottle, Nalgene 16oz
(100+) Fishing Hooks, Assorted Sizes
(900Y) Fishing Line, Trilene Big Game 15#
(1) Fishing Lure Kit, Pan Fish

Food - Packaged

(4) Emergency Ration, 3600 Calorie Mainstay
(3) Food Preservation Bags, 1 Gallon Ziplock Freezer

Food - Preparation

(3 pc) Mess Kit, East German
(1) Cleaning Pad, Scotch Brite
(2) Utensils, Guyot Designs

Hygiene & Sanitation

(1) Comb (Gary)
(1) Dental Floss, Sample
(1 wk) Female Hygiene Products (Wife)
(1) Hair Band (Wife)
(1) Nail File
(12) Sanitation Wipes, Wet-Ones
(1 pkt) Tissue, Travel Size
(1) Toothbrush

Knives & Tools

(1) Duct Tape (Wrapped on Business Card)
(1 set) Playing Cards (Gary)

Navigation & Signaling

(1) Flashlight, MagLite MiniMag AA
(4) Batteries, Energizer AA

Shelter

(1) Bivy Bag (Store in Dry Sack), USGI MSS Gore-Tex
(1) Emergency Space Blanket
(1) Mosquito Head Net
(100f) ParaCord, 7-Strand 550
(1) Sleeping Bag (Store in Dry Sack - Wife), USGI MSS Patrol
(1) Sleeping Bag (Store in Dry Sack - Gary), USGI Ranger Blanket
(1) Trash Bag, 1Mil 39 Gallon

Water

(1) Water Bottle, Nalgene 32oz
(1) Ziplock Bag, 1 Gallon Freezer


FIREARMS

My wife's Bug-Out Guns

Handgun = Glock 19 with Night Sights and (5) 15rd magazines with a total of 75rds of 9mm.

Rifle = Ruger 10/22 Stainless with Leupold 2-7x33mm Scope and (4) 10rd magazines.

My Bug-Out Guns (ONE of the following rifles)

Handgun = Ruger Mk3 22LR with (4) 10rd magazines.

Max Reliability Rifle Option = Arsenal SGL21 (Russian made 7.62x39mm AK47) and (9) 30rd magazines with a total of 270rds of 7.62x39mm.
Max Reliability with Common Ammo Rifle Option = Arsenal SLR-106FR (Bulgarian made 5.56x45mm AK101) and (9) 30rd magazines with a total of 270rds of 5.56x45mm.
Default Rifle Option = Colt 6520 (16" lightweight barreled AR15A2) and (13) 30rd magazines with a total of 364rds of 5.56x45mm.
Heavy Rifle Option = DS Arms SA58 (18" Para FAL) and (9) 20rd magazines with a total of 180rds of 7.62x51mm.

NOTE: The rifle will be selected based upon the situation. My default is the Colt 6520, because its only 5.5 pounds and I can carry more ammo as a result.

How much food should a BOB have? As much as possible with attention to weight.

Our BOB's are designed around the idea that the "magical 72 hours" was developed to make "survival planning" not seem overly monumental for the wool-bearers in society. We've had fatal tornadoes and severe ice storms during the past few years, but nothing that required us to abandon our home.

If we do have to bail out (an absolute LAST RESORT) then our BOB's have seven days worth of food in them. This includes (each person's BOB has this much food):

BREAKFAST: (7) Packets of instant oatmeal
LUNCH: (1) 1200 calorie and (2) 3600 calorie MainStay Bars
DINNER: (7) Mountain House 2-Serving Entrees
MISC: (7) Bullion Cubes, (7) Packets of Sugar, (7) Tea Bags

Our BOB's also have well thought out fishing kits, and my wife's primary bug-out firearm is a Ruger 10/22 with a Leupold 2-7x33mm optic. [The idea is to try to passively fish and trap for as much food as possible to hold in reserve the BOB carried food. The 22 rifle can be used for hunting in route to our BOL - thus multitasking and not burning calories on a low-success food gathering plan].

I had 2 pounds of Rice and a jar of peanut butter in each kit, but I had to shave weight so those items were moved to a "Vehicle Food Box" We have a large Rubbermade container filled with Mountain House Meals, Peanut Butter, Rice, MainStay Bars, Lipton Noodle Packets, Foil Pouch Tuna, etc.

If we can bail out in our 4WD SUV then the bug-out-gear order of importance is:

1) BOB
2) Rifles
3) Food Tub
4) Ammo Cans
5) Water

(NOTE: Water is last because we live in an area with an abundance of water that can be made potable with our various BOB filtration and/or purification gear).

As a side note: My BOB weighs about 38 pounds. When I finalized my BOB I weighed around 185 pounds, but have been eating better and have lost some weight. At 173 pounds I don't have much fat left to lose, but my current weight puts the BOB at 22%.

As a general rule: Americans eat too much. This is the land of plenty, and we're all guilty of over indulgence! About a month before I out I have cancer, my wife and I embarked on a "metabolic mission" wherein we've started eating less. We've shrunk our appetites to about 1/3 of what they were before. My wife (5'-4" x 116 pounds) still has a high metabolism and eats about 1300 calories a day. I'm 5'-10" x 173 pounds (muscular / athletic build) and eat about the same (1300).

I lost 3-4 pounds a week until I plateaued at my current weight. If I eat 800-1000 calories in a day then my weight will drop about 1.5 pounds, but as soon as I pass 1000 calories I'll bounce right back to 173.

The reason for adding this information is: Survivalism is a lifestyle. If you're eating 3 Big Macs a day then you've not properly assessed: A) your health, B) what TEOTWAWKI will really be like. It would be much better to gradually reduce your caloric intake now (let your metabolism adjust to LESS FOOD) than to have to crash into a survival diet after having a 3000 Calorie x 80g of Fat diet.

My last thought on how much food should be in a well-thought out BOB:

When setting up a BOB the focus is generally on consumables.
When setting up an INCH the focus is generally on durables (tools, better shelter, etc).

I think the 72 Hour BOB concept is rubbish, and PEOPLE SHOULD BLEND THE BOB and INCH CONCEPT! By stretching the weight of a BOB up to 40 pounds (for an average man) and choosing your gear VERY carefully - you can easily get a week's worth of food plus the means to procure more as well as some of the durables typically found in an INCH ruck.

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And here are the entire contents of the "MASSIVE SURVIVAL STUFF" THREAD.

A compilation of all the survival related threads on this site I could find, so it would be easier for us to find things we might be looking for.

http://www.cdc.gov/phpr/zombies/#/page/1

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthr...html#Post602882

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthr...html#Post569232

http://www.askaprepper.com/the-edible-and-medicinal-plant-that-can-be-found-literally-anywhere/

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthr...tml#Post1023214

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthr...tml#Post1023214

http://briangreen.net/2011/01/biolite-thermoelectric-wood-stove.html

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthr...tml#Post1015166

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthr...tml#Post1006911

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthr...html#Post265743

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthr...tml#Post1005088

http://www.powerfilmsolar.com/

http://www.voltaicsystems.com/amp

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/...thread_id=23847

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/1007240/1.html

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J2OC2B0/ref=...01C5R&psc=1

Synthetic Fibre sleeping bags.
http://www.carinthiashop.com/en/scripts/podrobnosti.php?IDZ=139

http://www.carinthiashop.com/en/scripts/podrobnosti.php?IDZ=196


http://www.sawyer.com/products.htm

http://generalecology.com/category/portable/product/first_need_xl_portable_water_purifier-new

http://www.moontrail.com/sawyer-point-zero-two-purifier.php

http://www.moontrail.com/sawyer-sp194.php


Aquamira Frontier - suck through small filter
Berkey Sports Bottle - 22oz bottle with 160 refills of prefiltered water
Katadyn Hiker - midrange pump filter
Katadyn Pocket - top of the line pump filter (13000 gallons)
I also use a stainless canteen cup for boiling, and Katadyn water purfication tablets.
For stationary needs: bleach.

http://theprepperproject.com/oven-canning-for-long-term-storage/

MY MURSE KIT (511 Push Pack)

SAK tinkerer
Ontario Rat Model 1 (original) folder
Whistle
Small signal mirror
Smith’s diamond rod sharpener
ITI 3 power level plus strobe led light (aa)
Small Silva folding compass
Ball cap bill led flashlight
Swamp Warden velcroed to outside of the bag
4 Chemlight light sticks (2x30 min and 2x12 hour)
4x 6 inch Fat wood sticks
12 PJ cotton balls in 2 35mm film canisters
Fire starter kit (altoids box with tinder)
Leatherman tool
8X20 Simmons monocular
25oz. Water bottle
2 10 inch Velcro straps
Pair leather gloves
Disinfectant wipes (12)
Alcohol pads(12)
Equate triple Antibiotic ointment(1 tube)
Burn cream (1 tube)
Tylenol, Ibuprofen, Aleve
Numerous assorted Band-Aids
4 4x4 gauze pads
25ft 1in Roll of medical tape
Roll of gauze (25ft x 2in)
2 inch gauze pads
Mercuroclear antiseptic/anesthetic
Quik Clot sponge
tourniquet
Moleskin
2 pair rubber gloves
1 small (2in blade) scissors
Imodium tablets
Benadryl capsules
Small razor knife
Bandana
Just added the following
Six inch mini pry bar
Coleman water purification tablets (and neutralizer)

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/748921/What_pack_do_you_like.html#Post748921

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/628987/VANCE_S_truck_kit.html#Post628987

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthr...html#Post736231

http://chrismolloy.com/page.php?u=p131

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthr...html#Post631315

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthr...html#Post576991

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthr...html#Post602637

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthr...html#Post584606

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthr...html#Post582938

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthr...html#Post585644

http://www.bestglide.com/Bags_and_Containers.html

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthr...html#Post425963

http://preppers.info/Free_Downloads.html

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/388847/Refined_pouch_kit.html#Post388847

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthr...html#Post386184

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/372343/1/Survival_kit_in_a_can.html

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthr...html#Post363719

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_TTAAzvybA

I only got 3/4 of the way through the Outdoors and Fieldcraft section of the site and got tired. BUT Y'all got a lot of info to give you ideas and PLEASE add to this as you see fit or come across new info.

Skunk

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthr...html#Post252298

http://toolmonger.com/2008/08/21/the-vital-survival-stove/#more-11445

http://forums.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthr...html#Post146490

Done. All the pages in the Outdoors and Fieldcraft section have been checked.


Edited by SkunkHunter (09/20/15 07:42 AM)
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