Scrap Yard Knife Company

Business Plan For ScrapYard

Posted By: Dumpster Dan

Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 04:54 AM

Dogs, as promised, I want to share the business plan I have constructed to ensure ScrapYard’s continued success, while improving delivery and maintaining our standard in performance to price ratio.

As you may have figured out, adding Renee to the staff to field your questions has allowed us to be much more responsive. It has also given Patti the opportunity to focus her efforts on shipments and order processing. It has, likewise, allowed other staff members the much needed time, to build the knives, increase their dumpster diving efforts, and to work on model development and design. Likewise, it has facilitated our much needed, and somewhat legendary, Bourbon breaks! All in all, Renee has been a great contributor in a very short time. We will continue to monitor this approach and adjust for changes in the future.

The largest and most significant change that I am implementing is how we will offer our knives up for sale. My original approach was to make a large batch of knives that could satisfy the Yard's immediate needs, as well as have inventory available in the shopping cart for the rest of the steel lovers out there who missed the initial onslaught. In two solid years of being in business we have been unable to maintain inventory for more than a few hours. While this is a wonderful business situation, it is a poor approach to keeping and gaining new customers. The situation around the second DMDC run made me realize that we needed to correct our approach.

So what is not changing:

1. The forum will remain as is and continue to be a family oriented place to talk steel, knives, and associated subjects. The Brotherhood of the Yard continues to grow with many new Dogs joining on a regular basis. The friendly atmosphere of the Yard ensures that they will not be attacked for asking any question or sharing their thoughts.

2. The delivery of the highest quality knife at the lowest possible price will continue.

3. Dumpster Diving is in my blood and I will continue to bring different steels and associated parts to the table.

4. The customer focused approach will continue to be the highest priority.

What will change:

1. The way we offer knives. Instead of posting that knives are available and taking orders until the inventory is depleted, we will now take orders on 1 or 2 models for approx. 4-6 weeks (depending on the model) and will then discontinue that offer. NO additional orders will be accepted until those models come back around in the model rotation. It could be 2 to 3 years before those models are made available again. This approach allows the customer a better chance of getting in on a model offering while allowing us to batch process or group build knives. This, in turn, assists us in keeping a lower cost of production, while ensuring high quality bladeware and the high performance that has become the hallmark of Scrap Yard Knives.

2. Customer satisfaction should increase over the very high ratings we get today and more people will get to share in owning the standard in high performance to price ratio knives.

As always, I continue my thanks to the Yard for the feedback and input that has not only made us very successful in 2 short years, but also for helping us formulate our "go forward" approach

Dan
Posted By: dl351

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 05:02 AM

I'll say, this plan sounds great! I'm excited that we'll all have more than a 30 minute opportunity to purchase knives from the Yard! As long as this continues and prices stay where they are, I'll be a long term Scrap Yard customer. I've only got five knives from the Yard, but I love them all and would love to own more! Thanks Dan for your great products at great prices and your excellent customer service!
Posted By: VANCE

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 05:02 AM

i give it one S7 thumb up



good luck


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Posted By: adamlau

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 05:04 AM

Very good. So what model is going to be offered next <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ?
Posted By: Dumpster Dan

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 05:06 AM

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Very good. So what model is going to be offered next <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ?

Good question


I should post that

Dan
Posted By: Dumpster Dan

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 05:09 AM

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I'll say, this plan sounds great! I'm excited that we'll all have more than a 30 minute opportunity to purchase knives from the Yard! As long as this continues and prices stay where they are, I'll be a long term Scrap Yard customer. I've only got five knives from the Yard, but I love them all and would love to own more! Thanks Dan for your great products at great prices and your excellent customer service!

Thanks for the support and feedback

Dan
Posted By: Dumpster Dan

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 05:10 AM

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i give it one S7 thumb up



good luck


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Now tell me we didn't have fun at Blade...thanks for the thumbs up

Dan
Posted By: Jon C

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 05:10 AM

I like it. I give this plan my official approval. You may proceed.

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Dumpster Dan

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 05:13 AM

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I like it. I give this plan my official approval. You may proceed.

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Perfect...that what I needed <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Dan
Posted By: VANCE

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 05:13 AM

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i give it one S7 thumb up



good luck


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Now tell me we didn't have fun at Blade...thanks for the thumbs up

Dan

it was AWESOME!

you guys(busse family) are great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: Rainwalker

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 05:14 AM

Great news Dan, sounds like a winner of a plan to me! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

I look forward to the next model, so when do we get to place our orders? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Also, are you going to have anything special at Blade West or Knob? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: chickenplucker

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 05:15 AM

Thanks Dan, I cant wait. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> This takes all the stress out of it. Most of it anyway. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Dumpster Dan

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 05:18 AM

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Thanks Dan, I cant wait. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> This takes all the stress out of it. Most of it anyway. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Good point
Posted By: tyger75

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 05:31 AM

I'm liking the sounds of this, Dan. It allows us to put in our request, and time to gather the funds to pay it off. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Very nice! Wait a sec..... this means I'm gonna be spending more money on SYK knives! Ohhhhhh, very tricky! Oh well, at least I'll be broke AND happy! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Horn Dog

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 05:56 AM

So when do you start taking orders for the S7 or whatever is next? You know Jerry is putting HIS popular 7" blade SFNO up soon. I hope you have a bigger Scrapper in 154cm in the works. That steel takes and holds a sharp edge like nothing else I have seen. Just took me a while to get used to sharpening it. But I haven't had to touch it up yet since I got the edge on it. It just cuts and cuts. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: VoxHog

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 06:18 AM

Good plan.

So, a 2-3 year rotation... really? So maybe I can buy another DFLE in 2010 or 2011?
Posted By: MRpink

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 06:56 AM

Thanks for the update Dan! This sounds like a good plan, no more stopping everything in my life to constantly check the store. I presume you are doing this because it was successful for swamp rat's HCLE.

I hope you start the rotation off with the all mighty DFCG!
Posted By: KnifeGuy

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 06:57 AM

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..... what is not changing:

1. The forum will remain as is and continue to be a family oriented place to talk steel, knives, and associated subjects. The Brotherhood of the Yard continues to grow with many new Dogs joining on a regular basis. The friendly atmosphere of the Yard ensures that they will not be attacked for asking any question or sharing their thoughts.

2. The delivery of the highest quality knife at the lowest possible price will continue.

3. Dumpster Diving is in my blood and I will continue to bring different steels and associated parts to the table.

4. The customer focused approach will continue to be the highest priority.

What will change:

1. The way we offer knives. Instead of posting that knives are available and taking orders until the inventory is depleted, we will now take orders on 1 or 2 models for approx. 4-6 weeks (depending on the model) and will then discontinue that offer. NO additional orders will be accepted until those models come back around in the model rotation. It could be 2 to 3 years before those models are made available again. This approach allows the customer a better chance of getting in on a model offering while allowing us to batch process or group build knives. This, in turn, assists us in keeping a lower cost of production, while ensuring high quality bladeware and the high performance that has become the hallmark of Scrap Yard Knives.

2. Customer satisfaction should increase over the very high ratings we get today and more people will get to share in owning the standard in high performance to price ratio knives.

As always, I continue my thanks to the Yard for the feedback and input that has not only made us very successful in 2 short years, but also for helping us formulate our "go forward" approach

Dan


"ALL" good plans in my book. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

I REALLY like the part about:


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The way we offer knives. Instead of posting that knives are available and taking orders until the inventory is depleted, we will now take orders on 1 or 2 models for approx. 4-6 weeks (depending on the model) and will then discontinue that offer. NO additional orders will be accepted until those models come back around in the model rotation. It could be 2 to 3 years before those models are made available again. This approach allows the customer a better chance of getting in on a model offering while allowing us to batch process or group build knives. This, in turn, assists us in keeping a lower cost of production, while ensuring high quality bladeware and the high performance that has become the hallmark of Scrap Yard Knives.


1-2 models for 4-6 weeks to order is AWESOME. That is so much easier and less stressful way to be able to buy knives. I LOVE hearing that!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

The "Possibility" of previous models being made available after 2-3 years from time to time is also AWESOME. I would love to see that with Busse and Swamp Rat as well. Although, some Busse's are coming back. I have seen the SJTAC resurected, the ASH was a bring back of sorts, the SFNO would be a popular bring back, etc.

To me, this helps take the jack-up profiteering out of the secondary market and helps Busse, Swamp Rat and Scrap Yard fans be able to enjoy knives from the factory more often. There will still be a secondary market. But, if production can meet demand, Busse will be the benificiary of profits and sales and Busse, Swamp Rat and Scrap Yard fans will be able to buy at "easier" will from Busse making it much easier on buyers. I am not interested in investers who purchase tons of blades to resale at jacked-up prices. I never bought their jacked up prices anyway. I have purchased from the occasional person who offered a reasonable price on the secondary market if I missed something though. And sometimes some people just need to sell for various reasons that I can except (not including jack-up investors). I think this all works out for the best for the most. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

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Posted By: Jim

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 07:10 AM

I guess I'm a bit different than most in that I like the "instant gratification" of receiving what I order in the same week I make payment. I have difficulty committing to waiting for weeks, even months, between placing an order and receiving it. That's why I often accept the more limited options offered in the Busse Company Store in favor of placing orders on the Busse Combat site.

That being said, I also recognize the business advantages of knowing how many units to make at the front of a production run instead of guessing when the pile is tall enough to release. Hopefully, there may still be some dog bowl action on military overruns for an occasional steel-on-demand fix. It'll be interesting to see if comments about the good old days of cash and carry orders are made while people wait for their knives.
Posted By: MRpink

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 07:14 AM

I agree, the waiting 4-6 weeks is going to hurt, maybe they can work out some sort of plan where the first group or so who ordered could get their steel earlier.
Posted By: Jim

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 07:28 AM

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I agree, the waiting 4-6 weeks is going to hurt, maybe they can work out some sort of plan where the first group or so who ordered could get their steel earlier.
From reading the plan, models will be in the store for that long, but I don't think they'll be ready to ship at the end of that period. I expect delivery schedules will depend a lot on civilian and military order volume, but I'd be surprised if there wasn't additional time between runs so that production can catch up with demand before the next cycle.
Posted By: Athos

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 07:38 AM

Woot! I'll finally be able to get one!
Posted By: northern1

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 11:14 AM

this is great news to me.the busse brothers are just the best man.

this pretty much sounds like the same way busse combat sells their knives.put a model up and take orders until they feel the time is up on that model and start shipping them out in batches.if you where one of the earlier orders you will be in the first batch just like busse combat.

i'm excited.i will miss ordering a knife and having it on my doorstep 1 week later.it looks like that BDLE was the last of SYKC instant gratification/SR77 quick fix.oh well,it'll be worth it.

and while this will make things much better and less stressful for the pack and ensure no one goes to bed hungry i also hope this makes things better,easier and less stressful for all you guys in the shop and who are a part of the company from the top to the bottom.

you guys bring us the best cutlery,you stand behind it and take care of us every single time,no questions asked,no exceptions.dan is the only person from the scrapyard shop i've met and he is a great guy and fun to be around so i hope this allows him a few extra bourbon breaks.

with all that said..........WHAT IS UP FOR GRABS NEXT GOOD SIR???????
Posted By: crpoc

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 11:46 AM

Great plan. Bring on the S7!
Posted By: Dumpster Dan

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 12:45 PM

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Woot! I'll finally be able to get one!

You bet...Welcome tothe Yard

Dumpster Dan
Posted By: Dumpster Dan

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 12:47 PM

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this is great news to me.the busse brothers are just the best man.

this pretty much sounds like the same way busse combat sells their knives.put a model up and take orders until they feel the time is up on that model and start shipping them out in batches.if you where one of the earlier orders you will be in the first batch just like busse combat.

i'm excited.i will miss ordering a knife and having it on my doorstep 1 week later.it looks like that BDLE was the last of SYKC instant gratification/SR77 quick fix.oh well,it'll be worth it.

and while this will make things much better and less stressful for the pack and ensure no one goes to bed hungry i also hope this makes things better,easier and less stressful for all you guys in the shop and who are a part of the company from the top to the bottom.

you guys bring us the best cutlery,you stand behind it and take care of us every single time,no questions asked,no exceptions.dan is the only person from the scrapyard shop i've met and he is a great guy and fun to be around so i hope this allows him a few extra bourbon breaks.

with all that said..........WHAT IS UP FOR GRABS NEXT GOOD SIR???????

Thanks for the kind words and support of extra bourbon breaks.

As Paul H would say...stand by for news ......................... on whats next <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Dan
Posted By: WhichDawg

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 01:11 PM

I think it's a great plan Dan! Wonderful news for the first-time-buyer and those that have really wanted a SYK.

I feel lucky that I was here at the right times to get some great steel but many were not and missed out. But now with this new plan, so many can have what we all know to be the best bang for the buck, Scrapyard!

I'm happy for you and I'm happy for the dawgs who will get their fill! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Like stated will we ever get any more "Dog Bowls?" maybe once in awhile? they were fun and Renee was gettin pretty good at it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Shaolin

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 02:07 PM

Sounds good to me, great. Looking forwarded to the next offering.
Posted By: Private Klink

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 03:22 PM

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this is great news to me.the busse brothers are just the best man.

this pretty much sounds like the same way busse combat sells their knives.put a model up and take orders until they feel the time is up on that model and start shipping them out in batches.if you where one of the earlier orders you will be in the first batch just like busse combat.

i'm excited.i will miss ordering a knife and having it on my doorstep 1 week later.it looks like that BDLE was the last of SYKC instant gratification/SR77 quick fix.oh well,it'll be worth it.

and while this will make things much better and less stressful for the pack and ensure no one goes to bed hungry i also hope this makes things better,easier and less stressful for all you guys in the shop and who are a part of the company from the top to the bottom.

you guys bring us the best cutlery,you stand behind it and take care of us every single time,no questions asked,no exceptions.dan is the only person from the scrapyard shop i've met and he is a great guy and fun to be around so i hope this allows him a few extra bourbon breaks.

with all that said..........WHAT IS UP FOR GRABS NEXT GOOD SIR???????

Thanks for the kind words and support of extra bourbon breaks.

As Paul H would say...stand by for news ......................... on whats next <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Dan


The plan sounds good Dan! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> Now, what's next ?!? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> And since Blade West starts TOMORROW, what Yard knives will be there? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Bors

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 03:46 PM

I like the new plan..... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Horn Dog

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 04:12 PM

I think it is a good plan. But to really find out which models will be in demand, he needs to send one of each prototype to me for testing and pictures. I will unselfishly do this service for the yard just to help out. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Anonymous

Post deleted by Private Klink - 09/25/08 04:15 PM

Posted By: terry13111

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 04:36 PM

I must say this sounds like a great plan. It one, gives everyone a better chance to get their knife. And two, gives me a better chance to secure funds!
Posted By: Shaolin

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 04:43 PM

We could do a Pass Around.
Posted By: rackemup

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 06:16 PM

As a relatively new dawg I can finally let go of some of this angst that has built up since I started sniffing out some Scraps. Frustrating that 'quick draws' buy multiple copies, denying many others from obtaining any, and turning around and making a killing on the secondary market because that's the only option.

Some may get a kick out of the old process and maybe if I had come around much earlier I would see the Yard differently. This is very good news.
Posted By: banana-clip

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 06:21 PM

Sounds like a great plan Dan.
Posted By: tedwca

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 08:05 PM

Bah, sounds like you stole it from those Busse guys. I like it.
Posted By: KnifeGuy

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 08:25 PM

For those concerned about not getting "INSTANT" gratification. Keep in mind "Instant" is a VERY relative term around here. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

But, nevertheless, there is a very "obvious" solution.

Dan could still have Dog Bowls by having a given quantity on hand at the time of announcement/release, "THEN" everyone else who missed out or is willing to wait can still order through the system.


If Dan doesn't announce a knife till he has a small load of them on hand, nobody around here would no better anyway. Since wait times are random and months at a time, what is the difference as far as we know?

This way, some of those who might wet themselves, can't wait more than "Two weeks" after seeing a new knife posted or might just generally bonk after doing the Snoopy Dance too long might still be able to get get some "Instant" gratification..... and show off to those of us more patient dogs willing to wait if needed.

"AND" nobody will really miss out if missing the Dog Bowl as they can still order through the system if the missed out on the "First to the Bowl" releases.

Quick Dogs can still get their meals fast and then relax happy and "ALL" dogs can still get fed and be happy. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Everybody can be happy. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

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Posted By: thesurefire

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 08:43 PM

Sounds like a good idea.

My question is how are you going to meet the demand?

In the past runs have sold out in just minutes, over the period of a month you may sell thousands of blades. Are you going to cut off orders when you reach a certain number? If not and you take orders for say 4 weeks and have a very large order will the next release be pushed off while you finish the current blades?
Posted By: Jim

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 09:11 PM

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... Frustrating that 'quick draws' buy multiple copies, denying many others from obtaining any, and turning around and making a killing on the secondary market because that's the only option...
Not all of us make a killing on the secondary market. Some of us just hoard them like dwarven gold in preparation for the collapse of civilization or when the zombies come a callin. Seriously though, except for the last DCDM sale, releases have always been announced days ahead of time. Thus far, I've never missed getting my order in; I've made it a priority to be at my computer, with an email ready to send, waiting for the GO post. Barring power outages, if you're more than a minute late, then your priorities were elsewhere. I'm not judging you or anybody else who misses a release, but I'm a bit irritated that so many judge me harshly for buying more than one or two blades.
Posted By: Tolly

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 09:25 PM

With a tear in my eye I sit here playing Taps for my F5 button. RIP my friend, you've worked hard and done your job well <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sad.gif" alt="" />.


Although I will miss the fun of the Dog Bowls I do like the new business plan Dan. In fact, if I could, I would e-mail a bottle of this Gold wax Makers Mark I have setting on my mini bar <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />.
Posted By: Anonymous

Post deleted by Private Klink - 09/25/08 09:26 PM

Posted By: Horn Dog

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 09:46 PM

Comrads of the Yard, there is only one way to make this fair. It should be needs based. Every potential buyer will be required to fill out an official SYKCO form stating the following information:

1. Your name.
2. Number of knife users in your household.
3. Annual income (this is for price determination).
4. Quantity and model of each SY knife you own. Similar Busse-made models must also be included.
5. Legitimate activities you engage in that require a knife and the type of knife most suitable for that activity as determined by the SYKCO knife use and design board.

Prices will be adusted on a sliding scale based on income. Excess knives must be returned to SYKCO for redistribution based on need. Excesses will be determined by the needs committee. You may qualify for an "earned knife income bonus" which will take the excess knives returned and deliver them to you free of charge.
Posted By: KnifeGuy

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 09:57 PM

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... Frustrating that 'quick draws' buy multiple copies, denying many others from obtaining any, and turning around and making a killing on the secondary market because that's the only option...
Not all of us make a killing on the secondary market. Some of us just hoard them like dwarven gold in preparation for the collapse of civilization or when the zombies come a callin. Seriously though, except for the last DCDM sale, releases have always been announced days ahead of time. Thus far, I've never missed getting my order in; I've made it a priority to be at my computer, with an email ready to send, waiting for the GO post. Barring power outages, if you're more than a minute late, then your priorities were elsewhere. I'm not judging you or anybody else who misses a release, but I'm a bit irritated that so many judge me harshly for buying more than one or two blades.



Jim,

How did that comment apply to you? If that comment doesn't apply to you, why are you being defensive about it?

What I don't understand Jim is why you would have a problem with others being able to get the knives with this new system.

If all you are doing is hording, this system still allows you to hord and buy all you want and nobody should have any reason to complain with Dan's new system.

This system should be good enough for all except investors and better for most except for investors.

With Dan's plan, "Horders" can buy as many as they want without preventing others from opportunity. So, hord all you want and be happy. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

But, in the past, with Dog Bowls and limited quantities, whether you sell them for profit or hord many multiples, if there is only a set number of knives available, you have played a part in depriving other fellow Dogs (who we call friends - except at trample time! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> ) from getting knives they wanted because you hord. Or as you imply: others who might sell for profit.

I can appreciate multiple knives being purchased for many various reasons. I have purchased 2 on multiple occassions and even 3 once. But, I didn't purchase the extras to screw my fellow dogs. I bought to have an extra that I thought I might want. I can further understand some people might buy even more as gifts for family or friends as ligitimate and fair reasons for buying multiples.
But, for anyone wanting multiples as spares or for friends and family, how are they hurt by Dan's new system of taking orders? They can all still get what they want with out taking AWAY from other fellow dogs.

You might not have anything else in life to do at go times. But, many people have to work odd hours or have many other relevent, fair and important obligations in life. Or live in other parts of the world where a good time for a bowl here is a very poor time for a Dog Bowl there.

With Dan's plan to sell by taking orders, it sounds to me like most everybody within a fair and reasonable time should have an opportunity to place their orders.

If you are just wanting to buy "Hords" for yourself, why would you have ANY problems with others being able to have a reasonable and fair chance to purchase knives they want?


If investors want to buy in large quantites when everyone else has a fair and reasonable time and chance to buy, then try to sell later, fine. More power to them.


But, for those who are buying in quantity to resale and jack-up prices at a later date "AND" depriving other fellow dogs from reasonable opportunities to buy at short run/short availibility bowls, screw them..... whoever they are.


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Posted By: KnifeGuy

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 09:59 PM

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Although I will miss the fun of the Dog Bowls I do like the new business plan Dan.


I mentioned at the bottom of page two how there could be a happy combination of still having some "Fun" and "Instant Graticification" Dog Bowls and still allow others to place orders and not miss out. Seems very feasible to me. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

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Posted By: Tolly

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 10:50 PM

I promise you that investors will still be able to make big money on the secondary market. The reason is because of the 2-3 year rotation deal. If for whatever reason you didn't know about SYKCO at the time of a release you wanted, and you do not want to wait 2-3 years for the knife to "maybe" be released again, your only option is to buy off of the secondary market.

Also, as I read Dan's post, he didn't guarantee that all models would be re-offered. So, if that is the case and someone has several knives stashed away that are no longer going to be made, guess what,$$$$$$$$$.

While I think very little of our fellow dogs and Busse-kin brothers who buy multiples just so they can gouge their fellow "friends", I don't think this plan will hurt their greedy ways in the long run.
Posted By: TC

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 10:54 PM

Thanks for going with the non-gaanza style offerings in the future. I have missed out on some great knives due to not being near my PC at the right time. I look forward to growing my Scrapyard collection in the future. My poor DMCG and Yard Hook are gettin lonely. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Private Klink

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 10:55 PM

I think we should all just calm down and give the new business plan a chance to work. I have a feeling that we will all be happy with the changes! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Shaolin

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 11:06 PM

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+1. I don't expect Dog Bowls to end any more than I expect Busse ganzaas to end. Pre-sales and Dog Bowls both have their place.


I whole-heartedly believe this as well. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Jim

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 11:28 PM

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Jim,

How did that comment apply to you? If that comment doesn't apply to you, why are you being defensive about it?

What I don't understand Jim is why you would have a problem with others being able to get the knives with this new system.
I'm not objecting to others being able to buy knives. What I'm objecting to is people making accusatory remarks about people who buy more than one or two knives at a time. That's me: I bought 4 DMCGs, 4 DMLEs, 3 YKCGs, 3 YKLEs, and 11 DCDMs; I've purchased 6 S6s (2 black sterile, 2 tan, and 2 black with logos) and if there are more at Knob Creek, I'll probably buy them too. I have 3 SS4s (all purchased in the secondary market) and 5 MOD7s (I paid after-market for 4 of them) -- at last count, I had a total of 49 Scrap Yard knives. I think of collecting that many as an accomplishment, and I tend to become offended when somebody tells me I should be ashamed of having more than my "fair share" instead.
Posted By: rackemup

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/25/08 11:40 PM

I'm one of those 'quick draws' myself, having scored one each of the two Dog Bowls that I jumped on. My heartburn is directed to the old business plan, not to those who took advantage of it.

The endorphin rush at those two dog bowls can't be beat.

I just want more opportunity to buy quality users without having to go slopping everyday in the secondary market.

I don't want to deny anyone their swag.

Again, I'm new in this game, and that's the way I see it.
Posted By: CReynolds

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/26/08 12:04 AM

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Thanks for the kind words and support of extra bourbon breaks.

Dan

Hmm, bourbon .... Now you're talkin.

Big thumbs up for the plan! I'm raising my glass to the Dogfather coming up first!!!!!
Posted By: intel440

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/26/08 01:53 AM

thanks so much.....i look forward to the next offering.......... i can make my first purchase and join the brotherhood .......................
Posted By: reconseed

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/26/08 02:02 AM

I sincerely hope Dan and CO. sticks with SR-77.
Posted By: Implume

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/26/08 11:12 AM

Slings and arrows of outrageous fortune…

Much ado about nothing…

What a literary gang of knife jocks.
Posted By: fore

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/26/08 11:52 AM

The new system for ordering sounds like an improvement to me. Hope the next offering is soon.
Posted By: Private Klink

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/26/08 12:25 PM

Me too! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: rackemup

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/26/08 01:41 PM

Anybody find out what is on the menu at Blade West? Anybody? Renee?
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Posted By: Private Klink

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/26/08 08:02 PM

I am a little disappointed that our new Customer Service person is not addressing our question of Blade West offerings! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/paperbag.gif" alt="" />
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Posted By: Private Klink

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/26/08 08:07 PM

They did LAST year - that's how I got my Tan S-6 ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Anonymous

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Posted By: Private Klink

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/26/08 08:30 PM

I believe that the Busse group is normally represented there, with products from all three companies. It does not neccessarily mean that Jerry, Jennifer, or Dan will be there - just a representative selling Busse products. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Shaolin

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/26/08 08:44 PM

Well, idahoskunk is there, he posted some pics, but did not see any Scrap Yard or Swamp Rat blades.
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Posted By: reconseed

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/26/08 10:49 PM

idahoskunk is a stark supporter and advocate of BUSSE COMBAT. many of the lads over on the Busse Combat forum on BF are hard-line HOGS and dont get all excited about Dogs like we do here on the Yard, and thats fine. I am PERFECTLY happy with my RES-C handles and SR77 blades. many from that group claim that buying a SY knife is $100-$180 they could spend towards another Busse... OK, fine with me again. I will gladly buy the Dogs these guys dont.

All I am saying is this... I think that SY gets the shaft amongst the other Busse-kin crews. When Busse Combat is around, SY is on the back burner by a long shot in terms of publicity. I think SY knives are every bit as good and valuable as Busse IMO. I love Busse and SY both but SY is the best company on the market, IMO. On all accounts... CS, quality products, etc.

As for why Renee isnt answering a ? you might have asked... I think its not that she is purposely not answering, she is busy working on the NEW business plan and getting us more knives. Dan and Company are doing what they perceive as is best for the company. Yes, it is a CHANGE. A change that they perceive as a better move for their company and I back them ten-fold.
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Posted By: scrappy

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/27/08 12:00 AM

who started the bussemuk rumor? I saw nothing. it would have been nice though.
Posted By: Tikigod

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/27/08 02:30 AM

I am a little late on this thread but thought I would add my .02 anyway.

I am happy to see more of the business plan. I was not sure if Renee was an additional employee or a replacement employee. It is good to know she is an addition. I also like the new plan. By getting pre-orders, it should allow for less risk for ScrapYard and allow them to keep or improve the price to performance ratio I love. Adding a headcount costs money and I am hoping that they are planning to release more volume to help pay for the cost... Good for all around.

Dan, I love to the new plan and am glad you shared it with us. Best of luck with the new model. I will be helping support it <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: DMelone

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/27/08 03:53 AM

Dan, I love the plan. And it allows everyone to get their hands on the goods.
Posted By: Prince of Peace

Three cheers for Dans new plan! - 09/27/08 04:09 AM

Phillip, you are probably the ONLY man alive who has held a Scrap Yard Knife within 5 inches of The Big Dogs heart! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

I salute your skills and courage in that endeavor! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" />

Dan Busse... thanks! That was the nicest letter to The Yard in a long time. And the new ordering system seems to mirror Brother Jerry's system. I whole heartedly approve of the new system of offering a distinct model for a given time frame,taking orders on it and closing the door until such time as it comes back again in rotation or if it is a special or a not well received model"like that will EVER happen" you have the ability to have offered it shipped it and forget about it and move on to a new model.

Well thought out and a VERY sound approach!

I salute the new system! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" />

So glad to hear the Patti has had pressure removed by the ever on time Renee. I am pleased as can be to hear that Renee is such a perfect fit for the yard too! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

All in all it sounds like Scrap Yard is focused on the future and customer service. And most important of all you have a solid production plan in effect and that will keep The Yard well fed and as you no doubt have noticed The Yard has been growing in leaps and bounds with Pound Puppies soaring through the ranks as the blitzkrieg The Yard with new and welcome posts and contributions.

That proves that we are as always THE forum to be attending.

I love The Yard and and always will.
This home for me and my family has such deep roots it will be a part of ours lives for as long as you keep The Yard open.
The growth with new Dogs only improves The Yard and stretches the brotherhood we share into a global one. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

[censored] proud to be one of The Junk Yard Dogs here,and even more proud to have and use every Scrap Yard Knife made. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Long live The Yard!!

Peace.
Posted By: reconseed

Re: Three cheers for Dans new plan! - 09/27/08 06:32 AM

Long live the Yard!!!
Posted By: forrest

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/27/08 01:12 PM

What will change:

1. The way we offer knives. Instead of posting that knives are available and taking orders until the inventory is depleted, we will now take orders on 1 or 2 models for approx. 4-6 weeks (depending on the model) and will then discontinue that offer. NO additional orders will be accepted until those models come back around in the model rotation.


If i remember correctly this is how swamp rat used to sell there knives. or similar. you put in an order and wait 4-6 weeks to get them. I use to want the quick gratification and put off on buying a swamp rat battle rat because of the 4 week wait and now im kicking my self everyday for it.

This is a good plan it will give you time to decide if you want to purchase and give you choises to. I have missed out on a couple of buys because of not being able to get on my computer for days to weeks d/t work. The only reason I was able to get my DF was because it didn' sell out in 30 min.
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Posted By: reconseed

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/27/08 04:40 PM

very well stated BLD. The bottom line is that Scrap Yard is going to have MORE knives available that dont sell out IMMEDIATLEY!!! How can anyone not think this is a good idea? SR77 sitting in the company store is a good idea and I dont care how they come about making sure that happens... I just want to be able to sit here someday and surf over to the co. store's site and see a knife I want and buy it there for a fair price. I think this will boost SY's sales as well. The more product you have to offer the masses, the more people will get their hands on your work and purchase it when they figure out what a SY knife is! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Posted By: bradph

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/27/08 06:52 PM

I have had but a taste of Scrap Yard-fu.

A taste the lingers in the very soul of my tongue.

It needs it... it wants it... my prrrreeeeeecious.

Brad
Posted By: forrest

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/27/08 07:54 PM

This is good Can't wait <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />
Bring on the big choppers. S7 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />, S9 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />, S12 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Private Klink

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/27/08 08:30 PM

forrest - I like your thinking! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Joe Fowler

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/28/08 05:01 AM

So, here's a quick tale of how I got to the yard:

I loves knives, that goes without saying, but even though I would like to spend all my pennies on new ones I have a family and as I'm sure most of you can understand that's just not realistic. So, if I'm going to spend my money I want it to be on knives I'm going to love forever and ever and have no buyers remorse.

So, like the rest of you, I try to do all the research I can; chat on the forums, watch youtube reviews and read the blade magazines. I go to knife shops and talk to custom knife makers and make friends with other knife enthusiasts about what's new, what's sweet and what's worth our time. I know what I want, and the unfortunate thing is I've never been able to find it.

Then, several months ago I stumbled across Scrapyard.


Holy. Crap.


These blades were exactly what I was looking for, and that was before I even read all the reviews and saw all the youtube videos and so forth. They kick so much patoot I knew I had to have one.

And that was the problem. I mean, what company makes it impossible to buy their products? I honestly was pissed off. It made me so frustrated that I said to myself, "screw this, if they make it so impossible to get one of their knives I'm not wasting my money on one."

But a few days later that DM or DF or YG got in my head and I couldn't help but scour ebay and the forums and I kept coming back to the site and SY store to no avail. I would get pissed again and forget about it for a few days...

This repeated for months!

AAAHHHHH!!! It drove me crazy! As frustrated as I was, I couldn't deny the awesomeness.

So last week I decided to check out the SY forum, just to see if I could find a clue as to why I couldn't get my hands on one.

(Pause for a bit: I know many, if not most of you have SY knives and maybe it's not as hard as I thought to find one, but still, this is what was going on, so please be forgiving, I've repented!)

I saw this post by Dan, and after reading... pooped my pants. I don't care if I have to wait a few weeks, just to know that I'm guaranteed the knife I want because I've pre-ordered it... I was so amazed.

I wanted to say I know I'm crazy for making a big deal about this, but then I thought, look who I'm talking to!

Anyway, I'm excited to be a part of the yard, and I'm sorry I was so impatient.

Dan, you guys do good work!

Ok, I'm done.
Posted By: Anonymous

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Posted By: rackemup

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/28/08 03:30 PM

At church later today I'll be praying for PATIENCE!
Posted By: WhichDawg

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/28/08 03:33 PM

lol funny newDOGma! I truly understand bro <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />
been there, done that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

it's been timing, and luck, and making friends in the past but now
"new ball game!" I'm really glad for you sir, they are Great Knives!

Good luck and keep us posted <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Joe Fowler

Re: Business Plan For ScrapYard - 09/28/08 10:39 PM

I'm excited. What impressed me most was Dan's concern for "new customers".

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...it is a poor approach to keeping and gaining new customers.

Says a lot about the guy I didn't realize before. So, thank you for the commitment!

This should be fun. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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