Meet The "Deregulator"

Deregulation can be a good thing! Especially if you like your Scrap Yard steel with a single guard.

A small number of test team members expressed their preference for a single guard on their Regulators. We fear that some Dogs might try to accomplish this by grinding, melting, or sawing on their Regulator handles. So, in the hopes of preventing some pretty rough and possibly damaging hatchet jobs on Regulator handles, we have set up a CNC program where we can mill off the top guard leaving behind a set of really nice thumb grooves. Of course, being Resiprene C which is quite cushy, it is impossible to get a perfectly clean cut without some “fuzzy” edges.

These grooves can easily be smoothed out by light sanding with some 320 – 400 grit sand paper or emery cloth wrapped around a ball point pen or piece of 1/4” dowel. This only takes about 10 -15 minutes of light sanding or scrubbing while sipping your bourbon (probably less than 5 minutes if you're not drinking, but then where's the fun?). This operation will be done by the owner as we do not have the time to hand finish each and every handle. I'm sure that we could find the time, but I don't know anyone who would want to pay our shop rate for this operation.

We will offer this machined handle option on the first issue of Regulators for a nominal fee of $10.00. If it is popular, it may be offered again. If not, this will be the only offering. Keep in mind that the machining doesn't take very long but fixturing the handle onto a Regulator tang and pinning it in place so that it can be machined is a bit more time consuming. This can only be done before we assemble your knife.


Dan





This pic shows the finished Deregulator



These next two pics (Below) show a close-up of the finished thumb grooves.






These two pics (Below) show what the handle looks like after machining and how it will look when you receive it.

Ok Big Dog, If I can get them for the TT price (with my 3 photo ID copies), I will take one with and one without. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE say you are making them in the sandbox colors!

How do I send you my CC info and ID copies? PARTY PARTY !!!!!

Oh yeah I fogot to add that I like your new logo also. Good change! Got so excited I can hardly spell!!!

NANA NANA NAAAANA. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Sometimes it DOES prove beneficial to work the night shift. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Hmmm...now that I see a picture without the top guard, I think it looks way better!

Ho Man, I have a feeling that things are gonna get lively around here really fast! Now all we gotta do is wait for the GO button to pop up and then, LET THE CARNAGE BEGIN!

Now THAT'S what I'm talking about!!! I love it Dan, so please bring it --- NOW!!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Tom, On THIS, of all mornings you had to get up late! But you got the word. Now get ready to press GO!

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> I have to go back to the dentist in just a little while!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />


Dan - please save a few for me! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

OH NO! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" />

Hey Tom, send him a PM. No one will ever know but you and him.

You got THAT right! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Randy, I have Faith in Dan! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Haha, me too. That's why I try so hard to keep the pack ammused. So they won't turn on him. He DOES have a hard job. Working for the public IS NO PICNIC!!!

Oh and I should have said because I likes all you other Dogs in the pack as well. One LARGE world wide family of foaming at the mouth Canines! And we just keep growing and growing.

The public can be so fickle, which includes much of the Yard at times. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> That's why I so often post the phrase "Keep the Faith Brothers"! Time and again Dan has taken great care of our fellow Dogs, but many are of little Faith. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />

Now, let's keep this thread on track and more positive! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I really like the profile...amazing how that changes to whole look of the knife

You're right, it DOES look like a completely different knife.

There's been several of my fixed blades that I have been tempted to take the top guard off of. Reason I did't is I was afraid that I may not really like it that way. Glad Dan gave us a "before" picture. It's nice!

Seems like I heard that suggestion somewhere before ...........I LOVE it! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Options options options. Very cool offering Dan, I definitely have to get BOTH!

YOWZA!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Sweetness!

Very nice. Waiting patiently for these to be released. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Personally I think it looks ugly that way, but it's great to have options available. Thanks Dan

Dan, looks like someone beat you to it! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />


<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I think I like it better than the normal version....Better buy two to compare them....

The more I look at it, the more I want it. Looks way more mean! When can we get our hands on it?!

This is awesome. Just what people were asking for. Is this going to be available on the Mil-Over Regulator? If so, I will get one with and one without. That added to my TT Regulator would cover the options and if there is a LE then I would need that one too. Options are great!

Thanks Boss Dog

I'll take three without the mod please <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />. Actaully I would like more- but the limit is three <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />. Thanks for the option but I will pass as I rather like your first design as always-Thanks <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

deregulator looks great. But I dont trust my sandpaper skills, so I will just get the original.

+1, I keep looking at the photo...me like!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow! I think I really like it. The more options the better. I wasn't planning on getting another Regulator, but now I'm having second thoughts.

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i was already trying to fight the urge to buy the new regulator, plus one of the color variations, now your tempting me to buy the deregulator. i can hear my wallet melting right now.



btw looks good.

I love the new look.

I like the look. Think I'll get one de- and two standard.

I'm sold on the Original but I can see why some folks will go for this varient!
Looking forward to "seeing the Store open!"
JB

Get one - you won't be sorry! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

By the way Spider-Pig, I miss your Homer Simpson w/Spider-Pig avatar! I have been driving my wife crazy with my "song" ever since I saw it! Here goes:

Spider-Pig, Spider-Pig, does whatever a Spider-pig does, first your nose, then your toes, then look out cause' anything goes (followed by a surprise "goose"" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />, look out, here comes the Spider-Pig". The added bonus is that the song gets stuck in your head!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

There ya go!

I know I definately would not regret getting another Reg, my test teamer is one of my faves.

Now that song is stuck in MY head. DOH!

I think this is a pretty nice option.

Now those who don't want the top quillion can have one. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

I have the TT and have been considering cutting the top guard off mine. For my uses, I prefer without the top quillion.

For those of you who have not cut on or sanded Res-C (Raisin-Cain or others), it is actually pretty forgiving to work with and easy to NOT mess up. When sanding wood or metal, you have to contend with scratch marks. With Res-C, sandpaper tends to just roll of little bits of Res-C dust. It is hard to explain, other than to just say Res-C is forgiving to sand on and easy to NOT mess up.

I LOVE the regulators handle, except, I am one who doesn't care for the top quillion. For me, it doesn't provide anything (for my uses) and does get in my way for the ways I hold my knife and many of my other uses.

Outside of the top quillion, I LOVE the Regulators handle. There is PLENTY of room to move the hand around in multiple positions - slightly choke up or slightly choke back and ALL positions are comfortable and secure in the hand.
I just don't personally have any practical justification for a top quillion.

For my knives, I like the versatility of multiple hand holds for various uses and some uses OFTEN include having my thumb on the spine. But, the top quillion prevents this.

If chopping, the top quillion is irrelevant to me. It is not in the way, nor does it help - for me. ************* BUT, the Regulator Handle REALLY is awesome - ESPECIALLY for chopping. The size, shape, fit and feel is VERY nice. And in my opinion, the handle is VERY versatile - without the top quillion.

If stabbing, it is probably a good thing to have the top quillion since it would help prevent your hand from sliding forward. But, I never really stab stuff or at least VERY rarely might I just lightly "poke" something. If for some reason I felt I would need to stab something hard, I would grip hard, try to make sure my hands are not slippery and hope the lower guard is sufficient. But, I don't need (or want) a top quillion for my uses.

If someone had any thoughts they might pretend to be Steven Segal and have a mono y mono knife dual, a top quillion is arguably a good thing. Although, if "Theoretically" hoping to have a top quillion to protect your hand in THAT type of a knife fight, Res-C isn't exactly my first choice to use to protect my hand from another knife. Res-C can be cut. A metal guard would be better - along with probably a blade catch. But, NONE of that is of interest to me.
I know Busse is "Combat". But, I am not combat. All I can do is consider my needs and uses.
Quite honestly, I feel that a lot of combat people (that I know) appreciate that a good knife is really more of a WORK tool for chore and task use and therefore a good stout utility design or camp use design works better for combat uses and needs than any blade that "compromises" work/utility function for hopes of being too much a fighter. Tacticool designs are fun for MANY people. But, even Rambo finally dropped the saw teeth to go with a more practical - although primarily large chopper design.

Personally, I have no interest in knife dualing. Guns became popular for good reason. Nobody wins in a knife fight. I have plenty of other uses and justifications for knives - just not fighting. - Maybe if in a National Park and attacked by a lion or small bear (????) ... Not any more, LUCKILY, they just passed a new law allowing for gun carry in National Parks again finally!!!! - But, with a bunch of loop-holes. So, there goes that idea. If concerned about lions and bears, I will take a gun over a knife.
I just have to view my "Priorities" of my intended and practical uses of my knives. And my uses for my knives are not benifited by a top quillion and for my uses, a top quillion does hinder my hand holds and therefore my uses. That is just my opinion.

Some fighters are very cool looking and nice for collecting, but this is a Scrap Yard knife - To me, especially as a CG, it has to be good as a "USER". Aesthetics are always nice, but I prioritize function for knives I intend to use.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I don't see CG blades or Res-C handles as so great for "collectibles". But, while I prefer satin for my uses, I can and do appreciate why "others" do like CG coatings. And Res-C is just great for actual use - even if not real pretty either.

With all that in mind, personally, for my uses, I look forward to future releases with the new Regulator handle (especially without the top quillion).

But, for my uses, I would also prefer and look forward to other future blade designs without such a deep clip in the blade. I actually "prefer" no clip. I don't need so much point and for my uses, I would prefer a blade with more mass towards the tip.... like the Chopweiler. This 7.5" blade length (both Regulator and chopweiler) is a VERY good length for a good camp use knife that can also be more versatile and easy to carry than a big chopper.
But, that is a preference, for function and utility, the Regulators blade is still very good and very versatile. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

The Chopweiler's blade is "actually" about 1/2" - 3/4" longer than it's Res-C counterparts because the micarta extends onto the tang about 1/2" - 3/4" further from the grip position. But, we typically measure from the edge of the handle material not the grip position. So, with Res-C attached, the Chopweiler blade would be about 8.0" - 8.25" or so.

I would LOVE to see the Chopweiler's blade on this new Regulator handle!!!!!

Or a slightly more dropped point - slightly pointier version of the Chopweiler's blade (like the SJTAC or S5's blade shape, but BIGGER!!!) on this handle - and without the top quillion.

I would also prefer a VERY SMALL (close to 1/4" from Res-C to choil) section of steel at the back portion of the choil (round choil) and in front of the lower Res-C guard.

..... I am struggling with the desire to draw a concept pic of old concept Scrapweiler blade with SMALL choil guard and single quillion version of Regulator handle. But, I am dreaming of it... in satin.

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KG, glad to hear you like the handles. Looking forward on getting my hands on one soon.

looks who is here! long time no...type (!) KG

good to see ya!

Oh no... I think you might have gotten me with this one Mr. Dan!

-Stan

MR, I am sure you will like the handles.

The Double/top quillion is no doubt a subjective opinion. Some will like it and some won't. All I can do is tell you my own personal views on things.

I don't like the top quillions for "My" uses, my preferences and various hand holds.

But, yes, other than the top quillion, I do think the new Regulator handle is QUITE AWESOME. And trying to be objective, I honestly have to believe that most people will LOVE the new handle - Not including different views on the guard single/double guard. The new handle shape (not including guard) is VERY versatile and I think it should feel good in most any size or shape hand! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

But, with Dan offering a solution for the top quillion that mostly makes the new handle at least as good as old Res-C handles, I think many should be happy with what Dan offered here.

Personally, I would still like the choil to wrap around with just about a 1/4" of steel in front of the lower guard. But, I don't think that is a deal-breaker either.

Maybe future offerings will have a slightly smaller version of the good old Camp Tramp choil/guard, but imagine with the new Regulator handle!:




*** Big irony for me here: But, generally, I have always had a big preference for rounded choils. And I might still prefer the function of the newer rounded choil. But, in some ways I was actually quite fine with the flat choil on the TT. Because, truthfully, in some ways, the lower portion of the Regulators Res-C guard isn't conducive as a choke up choil grip point. In other words, I don't feel the Regulators lower guard fits in the index finger well when choked up. Basically, it could just be a bit better for fit and feel if intended for choking up.

I think a little bit of steel - about 1/4" (a little less than most older Res-C steel guards) and a rounded guard might help. Also, as Dan has shown to others here on this thread and something I have mentioned multiple times (including enlarging the grip area on the handle of the DM and other modifications), Res-C CAN be modified to suit individual preferences. Everyone's hands are different. So, Dan can't please everyone. Although, the Regulator does have a LOT of genericl simple and just plain awesome ergos that WORK and should work for most hand shapes and sizes quite well IMO. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />


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Thanks RN. I have been lurking a bit here and there, but felt I need to focus on some other things rather than spend so much time typing as I have been known to do. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

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Dan,

May I have the discarded pieces of cut-off Resiprene–C? I've had some experimental ideas in mind, and I'd like to have them for that. I'll be glad to pay shipping, of course.

I kinda like the mod but I have come to like the TT handle more amd more so I'll stick to the regular regulator hand.

I'm not a picky lad but I'm glad to see options.

I'm really anxious to get a modded handled one, as one of my suggestions was the T/T Regulator blade with a standard DogFather Res-C handle. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Seems to me the mod will make it easier for slicing, more precise work. I like the option.,

So the mod looks interesting, but what's with the blade grind on the example? I thought these were going to be saber ground?

When I first saw it this morning after waking up & before my first cup of coffee,I didn't like it.But after mulling it over all day I got to say I like it.It gives credence to the new rounded choil.
A little sanding,meh,no big deal.PTPR.
Love the grooves too.
Before I saw the pic.I thought it would just be ground flat. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbdn.gif" alt="" />
The grooves are groovy man. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />
Put me down for one please. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />
It'll be great to compare it with the TT I'm getting from fellow dog Joe.
Thanks Joe.And a big THANK YOU DAN for the option. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Now bring it big dog!

Another option?It has the new logo.hmmmmm.

KG, how goes it.
I am looking forward to one of these! Looks like I am not the only one.

I like the look of the De-Reg. I dig the thumb grooves. I agree with Myke, the grooves are definately groovy.

Officially approved by the Spider-Pig himself! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> I hear the Spider-Pig song playing softly in the distance. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Now if he just had on a little Spidy Pig outfit! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I'm wearing it right now, want pics?

Knife Guy, glad to see you posting again. Hey, don't worry about the length of your posts. You provide very informative and enlightening information!

I agree, I have a problem with the length of my posts. I'm horribly direct with my posts and they may seem abrasive, but I don't intend them to be. I put a lot of thought into my posts before they go up and I imagine they must seem incredibly thoughtless, but they're not. I just make sure every post I make says exactly what I want it to say.

I should probably find a way to spread my thoughts into several posts.

am i the only one too see the flat grind...

I'll admit that I have bad eyes, but I think I see a sabre grind. That plunge line seems to only go up about 70% of the blade, but I'm VERY drunk.

but look of the close ups of the raw machined bits of res-c ...i dont see an angle change at all..

I'm trying really hard to see a FFG. I think I'm too hammered to see anything other than a sabre grind. God knows that I would rather have a FFG.

I do like this configuration, though.

I thought I burned that picture!

Much better than THIS one! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" />

You must have got me just before I walked inside the house.

PM me and we'll discuss how much these pic's are worth. You can see my moobs and everything.

You're a bad, bad man, Andy.

you're talking about the last 2 pictures with the rough machining correct? if so, you don't see a angle change is because that portion is still the ricasso, it's completely flat, check out all your other SY.

Andy: I think I know which hospital he escaped from! too funny, BOTH pics.

I won't choose the "de" "option" because I like the Regulator handle.

Well the boss is here so I'll back on out for now. Might be able to get on later. See YA!

Meet the Deregulator?I wish I could shake it's hand(le).

Indeed it would Bruce. I am hoping to get at laest two new knives from the yard this year. Keep the faith

Yeah-I know what ya mean. I came in late in the game but still scored some nice steel <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />. I now own at least one of all the SY steel and surely buy every new release <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />. I think we are seeing signs of the economy as it has hit most everything out there <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />. BTW- are you coming to Eugene in April <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />?

The people that were most adamant about needing a modification were the folks that were advocating batoning. Their claim was not that they damaged the grip with the baton (yeah, right), but rather that the knife pivoted downward into the log when struck, damaging the grip. Wouldn't that mean that the modification would be needed on the sharp side of the the blade? Possibly the "batoners" would want it on both sides? I think that it is amazing that Dan would try so hard to accomodate everyone's wishes. Bravo, Dan.

If you can find my review notes on this, I spent a significant amount of time "stabbing" with my TT Regulators. The guard was sufficient.

Also, FWIW, (and no offense to pretty lanyard lovers), I use a simple loop lanyard (or "D-guard" when possible) to PREVENT my hand from sliding onto the blade during "stabbing". I use a lanyard for that purpose and for retention instead of decoration or to pull the knife from its sheath.

I like the Regulator handle. I have tested a TT Regulator to baton wood and had no damage issues, but I have no problems keeping handles from hitting the wood.

I think the removal of the top portion of the guard is a seperate issue. Some people like to place their thumb on the spine of the blade when choking up, I know I do.

And for the record, I would have preferred a steel guard. Not for batoning, but because I felt it just needed one. Sorry for beating a dead horse here. I'm more than excited about the finished product.

And yes, bravo, Dan, for working so hard to make the dogs happy.

First off, I don't appreciate your "yeah, right" comment - it is trivially easy to damage the guard without hitting it with a baton. If you want to be rude and call me a liar, that's your prerogative, but I don't think that comments like that fit in with the spirit of the yard. Ignorant and rude tones like yours are EXACTLY what drove me to argue this point so often and what drove the tone of conversation around here into the ground.


This is the situation, which has been explained ad nauseum: Knife is deep in log, so you can't hit the middle of the spine, so you hit the tip of the knife with a baton, while pushing down on the handle with your hand. Normally, the knife moves deeper into the log and splits it further. However, if the knife binds up, and doesn't move deeper into the log, since you are hitting the tip, the tip pivots downward, while the handle pivots upward, potentially driving the top guard into the log. To drive the BOTTOM guard into the log in the same fashion, you would have to be hitting the handle with the baton, which we all know is a bad idea since it's made from rubber.



Since you use the term "batoners" with a seemingly derogatory tone, perhaps you've never tried it yourself, and shouldn't be attempting to judge the outcomes we have seen while engaging in this very standard, common, and accepted use of a hard-use woods knife. Just a thought.

I agree - the modded handles are a big plus. I wouldn't mind sending my TT version in to have it fitted with a new handle that has the modded top guard. It would certainly look a lot nicer than my gorilla-glued current guard.


I probably won't bother sending it in for a rehandle unless I happen to damage the top guard again, though, and that requires me to spend more time in the woods using the thing <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Pass the brain bleach please <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/barf.gif" alt="" />

OT - I like the way the Deregulator looks, but think I'm going to order the standard model.

DD214
MM
This thread: http://www.scrapyardknives.com/ubbthread...ge=0#Post374303

Was not an idle warning. It takes two to argue. If you have that much trouble with someone's post, let a moderator know.

See you both in a week.

Thanks Chris - I just got in and read this! I guess SOME Dogs have to learn the hard way!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> Fellow Dogs - we Moderators -and Dan - are not kidding about keeping the forum a friendly place to hang out! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

I always wanted to ask why the guard with the finger choil on this model, but I'm
sure that will lead to trouble, but in my opinion, it would look so classic and beautiful without the choil, Anyways.. I think the people that did the "testing" of this blade shoulda had the final word or say... Everything might have come out alot smoother if a results graph or poll Was posted rather than opinions of testers vs non testers.

F/C - the people testing the Regulator should NOT have the FINAL say - that right belongs to Dan Busse!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> He asked for, and received, ideas from the the Test Team members, but the final product is HIS decision, not ours. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

No no final say over the people that DIDNOT test

Dan has the final say - PERIOD! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> I'm sure he looked at what everyone posted, whether they were on the Test Team or not. The T/T members obviously were able to post perhaps the best ideas due to the fact that they had Regulators in hand, but I know that Dan reads this forum and will listen to ANYONE within reason. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

True he has the final say, he can even paint them all pink, what I was getting at is the test team Was Made for a reason.... To find where it excels and where it's flawed, when a member pointed out a potentional flaw, anyone that wasn't on the TT had no cause to start an argument, while opinions will always vary and Dan did his best to accomadate more options ... A poll input or something should have been in so the blade could be discussed on a professional level... Rather than argued and best just guessed at. Maybe I looked at the TT as being something important.

Good job Chris! They're lucky you got to them first, because I would have dished out a 30 day suspension.

We will not allow this forum to deteriorate again.

AND I will state categorically that the ONLY way to damage the handle or top quillion on a Regulator when batoning is by operator error. Period! There are no "magic" logs that seal over the top of a blade as you split with it and there is no reason not to stop batoning if you hit a knot in the wood and the knife starts to rotate towards the handle unless you are either drunk or intentionally looking to damage your handle.

And these imaginary concerns about the Res C guard not being strong enough to stop someone's hand when stabbing are completely unfounded. Statements like these that are based strictly on speculation, do nothing but damage the reputation of our company and our knives without any proof whatsoever. They are unfounded rumors and they will no longer be tolerated, and those who try to propogate them are no longer welcome here.

Get it together or be sure to not let the dumpster lid hit ya where the good Lord split ya!

So let's return to the topic at hand and move past this nonsense.

To Reg or Dereg? That is the question! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

Dan

i'll take one of each, where do i sign up?

Right exactly definitely precisely yes i agree.

As someone who picked up a RegTT post-test-team, and as someone who is probably overly-cautious about ensuring that my hand does not slide up onto the blade during thrusting, i wouldn't hesitate to take a full-strength stab with the TT (whose guard is less fortified than the new production Reg) into any material in any weather (save possibly an ice-storm) without a lanyard and with total confidence, even if i were much stronger than i am. It's probably the most secure-feeling, confidence inspiringly over-built handle/guard i have felt (short of the Tsuba on my Katana, maybe). And as a bonus, it won't tear up the meaty part of your hand and pinkie (5th carpal/ metacarpal region) like a metal guard - i have had that happen in my reckless youth - although MUCH preferred to grabbing blade, still an owiee. You would have to stab so hard as to tear the Res-C off the lanyard-tube, and drive the metal lugs at the ricasso through the Res-C all the way down the length of the handle-- Anyway, point being, imho it's totally adequate. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Glad to see the moderators put an end to the silly arguing about the Regulator guard. It was getting really old. Now maybe we can all get back to sane and civil discourse. Well, at least civil! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />



Long live the Yard!

So true- all this crap was getting REALLY old IMO <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />.Sooooooo- is EVERYONE ready for a GREAT weekend <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> ? Here's to the YARD and knowing that Dan will have some great steel for us REAL SOON <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />!!

+1

Now, you did it, Dan. You've even got poor old me looking at a regulator. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

people need to listen to oddball and:

+1 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> Well said Horn Dog. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> Long live the Yard!

AMEN!

"woof, woof, woof!" that's my other dog imitation.

Wait what did I miss ?

Did the new TR's come out <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Hi Yard I have missed you, but melting sheaths is a lot o work.

I think I finally caught up on my S5 sheaths.

Both <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

+1 If anything I'll keep one and sell one but I want to try both. Who am I kidding, I'll probably keep both styles and try to get a TT also.

I am good Jeff. Thanks.


Thanks Skunk. I try. I don't mean to ruffle feathers when I do. I just try to be honest about my "Opinions".

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I am just hoping the main man raises the limit to 5 for TT guys <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />. I have all my friends that have seen these and if I can only order 3 I am going to have some disappointed folks <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />. Oh well- I guess I could quit being cheap and just pony up the extra- it ain't that bad for sure <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />.It's just that 100 bucks for knife and pants looks very nice indeed <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Bob - maybe your friends should join the Yard?!? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Good point Tom <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />- they work for me around here and see the knives and are always interested. I will mention it to them. But- these knives do make great gifts as it is something they can't get anywhere else <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />. Plus- you sure can't beat the price or quality IMO. Hey- looks like a bunch of great action on the board tnight <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />- I like it-Thanks <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

the more the merrier

So true! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Classic! I have thought of him many a time these last few weeks!

Back to our knife adiction! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Neat of the guys at SY to offer these. I gotta say though I think I'll stick to the original. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

This is certainly the question (see how the new guy shamelessly kisses up to the Big Dawg)!

I'm in for two Regulators, because as he said if I damage the handle while batoning then its operator error not a design flaw.

I do baton wood A LOT while camping. I live in Southern Indiana and while car camping you have to purchase fire wood at the State or Federal Park Office (because of Emerald Ash Borers - invasive wood borne bug). As a result we're typically stuck with wood that wasn't stored properly, and is soaking wet. Therefore, batoning is a guaranteed necessity for a quick and easy fire. With 7.5" of blade I'll just exercise caution while performing said task.

I hope this ^^^^ statement isn't a violation of rules as I see a lot of people getting Mod attention for discussing batoning. I simply want to explain why I'm selecting the standard model.

Final analysis:

[color:"red"]I'm getting TWO BRAND FREAKING NEW SCRAP YARD KNIVES![/color] <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

A-techt - discussing is one thing, arguing is another! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> And I'm ready for a few of these bad boys as well! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Pvt Klink,

Thanks for the clarification!

No problem! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

One of the toughest things we Moderators have to do is actually ban someone, and only as a last resort. We both love having and being a part of the forum, and know how tough it would be to lose your forum priviledges. We don't want to be seen as "censors", etc. (I have been called MUCH worse! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />), but Dan asked us to do a job and we WILL do it. Wouldn't you rather hear parties discussing things in a friendly manner, as opposed to arguing and trying to force their point on others? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I am ready whenever these are released. I want a regular and a deregular!

You are NOT alone Brother!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

DeReg for the win! Well, Regulator for the win too. What can I say!

I think I'll get one Deregulator and two Regular Regulators! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

I shouldn't buy anything right now but I seriously think I will not pass on the regulator plus sheath.

Hard to pass on Terry.Great deal <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Looks like things have become more civil around here. I took a long break from the forum hoping that things would settle down. As a NEWB I found it unpleasant and a waste of time. Thank you moderators and I cannot wait to get my hands on the new steel.

Thanks for your patience and return AZ. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> And believe me, we are as anxious to get some new blades as any other fellow Dog on the forum!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

I am thinking Monday is the day <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Man, I sure hope so!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" />

AZ welcome back, and your avatar is so funny. I think that is a vid from my yourh!

Yes great to see you again <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

I've never done any "batoning" but I just can't wait to get one to try it out, and see what all the excitement is all about. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Just kiddin, must be the Leinies talkin. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

man now im REALLY looking at getting one...that top gaurd was my only gripe...now that its gone, i REALLY wanna pick one up...do i need it, no. do i crave it...yes! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Matt - I feel your pain! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

The wife isn't going to be happy with my upcoming dentist bill.... hope I can wrangle a reg or two outta the fray...

Doc

Tell me about it Doc! I just had two bridge$, consisting of four crown$ each! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Fortunately, my wife is an understanding Angel and doesn't squawk about me getting 2 or 3 Regulators!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" />

Best of luck to you! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I have had a bridge for 33 years ... I broke it on superbowl weekend ... dentist fixed it... for 200 bux.... broke it again last weekend.... now they gotta saw it off and replace it... 2500... provided the underlying support teeth are ok....

it is on my front teeth... this sux...

Doc..

You got that right! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> But you're still getting off a lot cheaper than I am. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

yeah..so far... if the underlying teeth cannot be reconstructed... who knows... but... i am not wanting to be ahead of you.... wish we both didn't have to spend so much...

Doc

Right again -- I would MUCH rather spend that money on new steel!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />

You'd think it wouldn't be too hard to order some teeth made of INFI.
Then you would never have to visit the dentist again!

Go to Mexico- much cheaper and great stuff- plus you get a vacation <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Man, all this talk of teeth and dentist makes me NOT want to go in and get my long over-do problem fixed. The other day I thought about doing the Tom Hanks ice skate solution with a little bourbon/infi mix to fix it all up.

Where is my De-Reg Reg!

Bump

bump, alert, prod, beg, wait, snooze, steam, stir, stick, scratch, scream...

OK guys, I "stickied" this thread, but let's keep it on track. It has been derailed several times, and I have to admit that I'm guilty as well. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Dan - I'm READY for a DeRegulator!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I HAD some dedicated "Regulator funds", but not anymore.

Stupid bills.

I am totally unregulated so the Deregulator is perfect! Order in! Thanks to the whole Scrapyard gang. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

This pound puppy has just "DEREGULATED"! That makes two SY purchases in two days.....This is a GOOD disease!!!!!

I have to say that the video on knifetests really sold me to this brand. I know that a knife is much more than being able to go through steel, but whats not to like about that??!!! My first outdoor excursion of the year is coming in a month and I cant wait to put them to the test! Thanks SY! I think I love you!!!

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I don't think I got to say it earlier Ireash, but welcome to the Yard. The addiction has just begun.

Thanks...I know..I just got back from the gun shop looking for a red dot and thought...I could by three more knives with that!!!!

Welcome Ireash.

Ireash: Welcome to the Glorious Addiction! Oh and looks like someone is good with doing mods to pictures. Great Avatar!

I have a quick question...I ordered a standard Deregulator last night and I'm curious about something. I see the Mil Overrun is over 5/16" thick. Is this the same for the non military Deregulator? I have searched for the specifications but just couldn't find this out. I'm sure one of you know the answer.

Thanks

From what we have been told, ALL Regulators, De or not are the same specs except for the dehorning on the top guard.

Thanks Skunk Hunter! Appreciate the info.

I really really like the looks of that knife.

Rooster, if I didn't say it before, Howdy and Welcome to the Scrap Yard! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> The Regulator IS a sweet knife! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

just ordered one Dereg with sheath! thanks for the awesome deal Dan!

Way to go Tony! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

I am probably in the minority here but I really like the look of the Deregulator better than the Regulator. Anyone else the same?

Glad I got one coming! Wonder when they will ship out?

i think they are both really good looking knives, but i do prefer the dereg not only in looks but i think for me it will be a lot more functional with out the top guard.