Scrap Yard Company Question(s)

OK, so Scrap Yard is using material left over by Busse Combat and Swamp Rat. I got that. However, the address shown on this web site is in Texas. So here is the question: Where is the shop? Is all of this left over material being shipped from Ohio to a shop in Texas, or is Texas the location of the office and the shop is in Ohio? Or maybe the shop and the office are in Ohio and the Texas address is just a mail drop?

It is not really important, I am just curious.

Another question, if Scrap Yard is using material left over from Busse Combat and Swamp Rat why are the blades made of SR-77? When did Jerry and Jennifer use SR-77? Will we see Scrap Yard blades made from INFI and SR101? I'm confused....<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

I heard that Scrap Yard is actually using steel from the hoods of Buicks manufactured between June of 1967 and March of 1974. Utilizing special processes and secret treatments they are able to turn out an exceptionaly strong knife steel at an incredible savings. Futhermore, seeing as no one would believe it they concocted some [censored] and bull story about "SR77" jack hammer tool steel. Personaly I dunno...it's just a story I heard from some Rat Bastid.

They are using the metal from the hulls of crashed UFO's!!

Or are they?

Good question Rich...I was wondering the same thing

Maybe SR-77 is just cans of CBL that have been crushed up and heat treated? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Considering that Swamp Rat Knifes is having a hard time making knifes on schedule ostensibly because it uses the same milling tools as Busse ( according to the SWK web site) and can only use it at night (so as not to tick off Busse Knife), what kind of delivery/production issues might we expect if Busse and SWK decide that their "garbage" is creating too much competition and therfore decide that the "garbage" is a "trade secret".

Could not Busse and SWK legally issue a "cease-and-desist" on Scrapyard Knifes causing a complete stopage in knife production untill resolved?

Technically garbage is not public domain until it has been physically removed from the owners premises and placed into a public area (landfill). The inital trash is still the legal property of the original owner. ( Based on my own business issues I know this <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> )

Sorry cant spell that should have read:

Could not Busse and SRK legally issue a "cease-and-desist" on Scrap Yard Knifes causing a complete stopage in knife production untill resolved?

My guess is that it is a more inexpensive steel that is used to keep costs down to be able to make the knives more affordable. That is why Res-C is being used, because it is cheaper than Micarta.

Just so you know, you can click "edit" on the right side of your post to edit typos instead of starting a new reply.

This is obviously a supported move and the whole dumpster diving thing is marketing, I think that any cease and desist would cause a....


SURVEY SAYS! X X X


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Many good questions here. I'll try to answer as many as I can.

Here are a few answers to your questions. Busse Knife Co. has used many steels in the past including D-2, A-2, 0-1, 440C, ATS-34, BG-42, 5160, etc. Pretty much every tool and cutlery grade steel out there. Jerry has always been a bit of a pack rat when it comes to steel and he has stockpiled quite a bit of it over the past 25 years. The SR-77 is just part of that stockpile.

Yes, you will be seeing SYKCO blades made from many different grades of steels from the Busse and Swamp Rat shops. We will be using most of the left over "drops" and other unused grades that are available from this stockpile.

Where are the knives made? Some of the work is done in Ohio and some of the work is done here in Texas.

Will we have regular stock? I doubt it. Releases of new models will be sporadic. Military orders will be given top priority as they are the primary focus of our line.

Team SYKCO

Ok Administrator when will the orders be shipped?

Four to Six weeks! DUH!...

He he he... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

So Busse uses the shop at daytime, Swamp Rat use it at nighttime, when does Scrapyard use the shop? during the night's when moon is full? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

All orders will be shipped within 10 days of receipt of funds. Typically we receive deposits within 3-5 business days of charging.

Team SYKCO

Only during full moons and winter solstice. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Hope that helps,

Team SYKCO

thanks for the info Admin

I think I'm missing something here. If someone pays by credit card, don't you receive the funds immediately?

Now I'm thoroughly confused. I thought the Scrapyard's would be identical to the new line of Swamp Rats except with SR77 steel and Res-C handles instead of SR101 steel and micarta handles.

No. I wish we did, but the fact is that receiving an authorization number still does not guarantee that the monies will be deposited. That typically takes 3-5 business days. Gotta love the credit card companies.

Team SYKCO

Many if not most will be identical in blade shape but the materials used will vary.

Team SYKCO

No wonder I didn't receive my knife the day after I ordered it ! Well, I guess I'll just have to wait! Tom

So, if Eric is pushing for the new Howling Rat to be next new Rat blade, that would mean that next Scrap blade might be a Howling Scrap??

Howling Scrap? I would buy one. Or two.

I don't think I'll get one of those since I already have a HR and it's pretty similar. But I'll be getting a SR micarta howler though. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

This is really breaking my morale,
I was hoping that with the Scrapyard, the Busse family would get a little bit away from the one knife at a time custom shop type of operation and run a line of maybe three or four knive that people could choose from based on needs and results of other knives owned not just the opportunity to buy and the desire to own a Busse family knife.

Now that I have put my .02 in I have a question to ask on this question thread, is there any estimate as to when we would be able to get a sub 4" blade from the yard, folding would be a bonus, but I have room for a fixed also(it's a really small safe you see).

Thanks,
ps I almost fell out of my chair when I saw how affordable the knives currently being offered are, looks to me like the Scrapyard will empty out quick.

Hi Nate,

It is my understanding that the Scrap Yard and the Swamp will build up their offerings so that they have a choice of knives in inventory. The Scrapper 6 and M6 just being the first blades to be in stock. As far as what's next? I hope it's the Howler. OOH! or a Dog Shaker (Tail Wagger?) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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That sounds good, being able to get a replacement for a knife allows for different uses, and mods. I know that if I am fond of a knife and there are no more available I would be more restrained as to how I use it than I would if I knew I could put an order in and get it replaced in a couple of weeks. It will also allow for a lot more gift giving, I also don't like to give a gift that I do not have first hand knowledge of, so after I try a couple out I may buy some for the guys in my family that are need of a blade.

Or even a "Dog Pick"! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Would they then have a "Dog Pile?"

Niiiice one!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

This is one time where it would be nice to be in the "dog house"! I would advise against chewing on one of the "dog treats" however.

So we could see quite the variety of blade steels coming in the near future? Will there be much advance warning or is it more a case of check the doghouse daily for current kibble updates? (couldn't resist it, sorry!)
Blaine.

Large inexpensive(cheap has a bad connatation to it) choppers...lets see 'em

Right on GF !

How about my large, inexpensive, hell-spanking SYK Mojo?!

MoeJoe?! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

OK, I've got a question, and although it may not be as important as some of the others here, I feel it ranks right up there.

How do we pronounce the acronym SYKCO - "sick-o" or "psycho"?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I've been saying it "psycho". <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

You sicko...

The saga continues.

Shouldn't it be pronounced like S-Ya-N-Co? If you pronounce the letters as they are spoken in the words they stand for:

S sound = Scrap
Ya sound = Y as it is pronounced in yard
N sound = Knife
Co sound = Company

Personally, I think "psycho" fits right in with a scrap yard dog's personality !

What kind of dog would Scrapyard be?

The logo dog looks kinda like this one. Although I hope it's smarter. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />



And here's the winner of the world's most ugly dog. He looks like he belongs in a scrapyard. He looks like a survivor to me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

CRIKIES....It's the crypt keeper of dogs!!!!! And as far as the other one...well I hope he got a mouth full!

Real Question..is the 2 week gag going to infect this arena also....

I can't stop looking at that FN freak of a dog...I will never sleep right knowing it exist!

I hope not. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

I have more pics of it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> It's no longer alive, if that helps you sleep any better. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> It looks like you'd find it in a dirty dumpster in a dark alley. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

What kind of dog would Scrapyard be? A cross of a Rottweiler and a Pit Bull. Yikes!

Andy, that is truly an ugly dog ! I think it really belonged to the Cryptkeeper, as suggested by Gravelface.

Andy was that dog one of your 4-h experiments or something?....It looks like a prehistoric pet that was somehow forced to stay alive...kinda like Yoda if he were a dog...."Bark I would you at, if blind I were not"....in a yoda voice!

Rat-dog?

FOR Jahovas sake!!! Where do you find these pitiful creatures...What do you do...google "worlds ugliest......" and get these horrific images!!!!!!

seriously holy crap, what is up with that dog, Andy??

Stacey - do you think up these postings while you are squatting in the woods?

I am sure it would be much worse.....you ever heard of the "glass bottom boat"?

I have a feeling that we're probably best left without that visual...

OOHHHH the humanity!!!!

Believe it or not, a WOMAN owned that dog! I can't believe a woman would own a dog that ugly...


Nope. It was on my HD. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> I've been saving pics that I found on my computer for about 15 years. I have a ton of stuff. When a topic comes up that reminds me of a pic I have, I post it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />


Well, his name is Sam. I was searching for the news story about when he died, but I couldn't find it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> But I did find a link about him on snopes, and I'll go ahead and post the other pics of him from my HD to give you nightmares. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Imagine him with a Shaker neck sheath like Stan. haha.

Snopes: World's Ugliest Dog







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Great I really needed to see more pics of that Fugly dog.

That 4th pic..it must be his "good side"!!!....creeps

well I know where the idea for the movie "Gremlins" came from. If you bathed that dog in holy water, it surley would have burst into flames!!!!

no doubt -- Devil Dog would make a great guard dog -- just post him near the entrance and no one would dare come near -- seriously scary, i mean, the look in its eyes gives me chills... and the way it chews on its back foot with those awful yellow billy-bob teeth... Jaysus Mary and holy St. Joseph...

If I ever saw anything like that walking...or should I say lurking about my neighborhood, I would have to put it down!....It's so ugly I want to put an image of it on a shirt!

i know, it's so ugly i can't stop looking at it. [censored], that's one ugly [email]m@therF^$%ing[/email] dog!

lol, the forum hyperlinked my curse word

Yeah, anytime you use an @ symbol, it thinks it's an email address and converts it to a link.

Thanks Andy - I did not know that.

And knowing is half the battle!!!

I guess figuring out what you can get away with posting is the other half.

Thats it, the first official laugh of the day!....I have a gunsow to attend today and a "special event" on the internet tonight...looks like top ramen in my future!!!

Well, it's good to know that we can make you laugh. Have a good time at the show - hope you find some good loot!

Yeah I found some good loot, but no knives....I was sporting my Busse shirt and not a single one on any table! Savages! Though I did find the new Taurus 1911 fairly nice...it was decently priced at 485.....but alas...tonight I have a date with the ganzaa!

Ganzaa? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> I hate to sound so dumb, but if you are talking about your wife, I hope she doesn't read your posts! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I try not to let her get too close when I type....she would flip out if she new what kind of money I spend!

Extravaganza ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />

Exactly.....but now she is asking me what I want for my birthday!!! I told her don't open the mail for the next month!

GF - Don't miss your golden opportunity! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> Tell her you would like a knife From the Yard, with her blessing and best wishes - a gift that will last and last! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

GF so did you do well for yourself saturday night? i wished i could have made it -- those bad wardens looked pretty juicy...

I don't even know what was available, so some pictures would be appreciated. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Dogg, I am waiting for that email! This is the stressful part of it...other than paying for it all!.....I sure could use another knife! But at what point is it toooooo many? I actually would like to start making some of my own..might try to get some basic equipment for that. I am thinking of asking her to just let me go to KNob Creek for my birthday.....the shoot is the weekend after so it may work out!

GF -- I would love to do that as well -- make some stock-removal pieces. that would be insane -- i'm actually trying to find a deal on a bader BIII or an old burr-king that i can go in on with a few friends -- i'd prolly make some crazy thing out of 1/2" thick S5 and have Paul Bos do the heat treat -- hey it would be cheaper than having an artist make one custom... what kind of blades would you make?

I like drop point choppers....I contacted Bos after I bought some steel...only to find out he doesn't HT that particular one.....His prices are VERY good especially if you have about 15-20 going in at 1 time.

GF - I didn't realize that you were that much into knife-making. Don't be afraid to pursue the dream! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

It's not the fear......its a lack of knowledge and finacial stability. No knife makers in my neck of the woods.....I ordered some videos...I will let you know how those turn out.

Cool ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Oh the trouble I am in........If I could stop getting new knives...I could get some decent equipment! SKs Howling Rats, FBM, crash axe......it doesn't stop! Thats it! I am gonna sell 40% of my knives to fund equipment cost. And get to Knob Creek...and maybe 1 of them new smogs...>>ARRGGHH!!!! I can't help myself!

You are DEFINITELY a guide on the path to righteousness! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

GF -- that's my affliction, too -- someday i might wake up and sell all my knives in an aescetic frenzy, and then i can retire... or at least buy a grinder... how many blades have you made??

Made or butchered? I have attempted 1, but butcher/ modified many others.

You have to start somewhere GF! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

butcher knife? sounds cool! at least you are doin it -- what does your one patient who lived look like?

also how the hell do you guys have so many posts already? I am wearing myself out and i have like 1/4 as many as you dirty mongrels!

I work in a computer lab on campus! I get paid to do this!

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" /> And here I thought you were trying to sneak onto the computer when your wife wasn't looking! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Well all my post past 9 pm are just that! Don't worry I like you people enough to spend my own time here...not just when I am getting paid! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

dogg - I blame Gravelface!

dogg - I blame Private Klink!

dogg - you might as well jump in at any time!

In case you haven't seen these links I posted before:

Absolute Cheapskate Way to Start Making Knives

How to make your own steel knives

Blade Tutorial

Kydex Sheath Tutorial

Andy, you are great! I'm sure GF will find those interesting.

Those are interesting, some helpful inforamtion in there. I need some video guidance. I am looking forward to seeing these videos!

GF - We are looking forward to seeing some of your work!

For now you will have to see my Scrapper! Frightening visage this one has....but only 1000 away from the greatest Avatar ever!

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> I thought it was 491 to go! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

Gotta find the thread! is it 1500 or 1000 to true enlightenment?

Andy knows ! How about it Andy ?!

It's:

0 Pound Puppy
25 Lap Dog
50 Pooch
100 Mutt
250 Mongrel
500 Scrapper
1000 Junk Yard Dog

Alright!....closer than I thought!

Just hang in there big guy - we'll be there before you know it! We need to bring Andy and some others with us.

Come on guys - you don't want us to feel like the Maytag repairman do you ?!

AHAHAHAHHA I can see us now, sitting there waiting..I miss those commercial.... I miss TV, as an unnessecary expense we cut it while I was in the military , and for some reason we just haven't gotten it in 4 years. It is nextflix and buying dvds for me.

Well, the original guy - Jesse White - retired years ago. Gordon Jump of WKRP in Cincinatti fame took over for Jesse. Jump died not all that long ago, and nobody has really stepped in to fill their shoes. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />( <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

?

GF - the Maytag repairman !

I thought you remembered some of the old commercials for Maytag. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Yeah .but not the fellows name!

i remember that a couple years ago, people in appliance retail sales had signed pictures of the guy on the walls... sort of spooky...

Dogg......what is in the mouth of your avatar?!........

I don't think he wants to admit to it on screen!!

That is what I was thinking!

Once again, great minds think alike !

When will this voting stop? And we get our Bowie?!

BOWIE!!!!


mmm...BOWIE!!!!!!!!!!

What a wonderful idea !!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

GF - what do you think about the next model being the BOWIE ?!?

Hmmmm, well Sir......I like it!

Amazing that so many great minds think alike !

Dan, what did you vote for?

He probably won't admit that he voted for the BOWIE, in trying to appear unbiased on the poll.

Your right...so when the Bowie comes out, it would look biased!

You got it !

I hope to get it....Dan could make it possible!!!

Dan, in all fairness I think the BOWIE should be next. The HOGS have had their Infi for quite some time now, and after all, this IS the Scrap Yard ! Bacon and pork chops!

Let INFI sit on its throne elsewhere.....we all know where to get it.....Let SR-77 be KING here!!!

SR77 - <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" /> You make an excellent point GF ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I just hope the Highers agree with the Bowie...now is the a 10.5" Blade or Tip to handle?

GF how big does it need to be? 10.5" from tip to res-C grip edge is still pretty awesome! It'll eat a Trailmaster for breakfast!

I heard something about "two weeks"... must run in the family

The worst thing that could happen is for infi to get ensconced as the default steel here, just to fill a demand that the other company can't meet, at the expense of innovation -- To promise S7 in the mission statement and go back to infi after one model would definitely be seen as selling out. Then someone else will put out a big chopper in S7 and it will outperform everything else on the market and the Scrap Yard will have missed the window of opportunity to put itself on the map (a window that gets smaller every day that passes without a new model)...

Well put....though a little hard about the sell out part....If it is scraps and Dan gets it.....great for us! I just want a Bowie!!!!

GF - I think a BOWIE is a GREAT idea!!!!!

The bowie should be the priority here, *IF* the INFI shorty can be done too great.. My interest in INFI is due to its alledged corrosion and abrasion resistance, add a dog price tag to a medium sized INFI knife and stand by to conquer the world.. Meantime big SR77 please Dan!

Dan - When are you going to start SELLING the Bowie ?!? (you already sold us on the blade)

All Dogs read this quote carefully

I said read it!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I am suprised I am the only one with intrest in scrao yard blades made in alot of different steel types. I was and still hope they will use all the steels listed above but I dought it will happen. they seem to have stuck with S7.

It could happen scrappy, Scrapyard is still a pretty new company and I'm sure the boss has tons of idea's and plans for "Our" future! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

And Jerry supposedly has TONS of various steels he used to use! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I can't believe I missed this. Great info!

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