War Dog Back Up

Was just on BF and saw a post that War Dogs were back in the store.

Yes they are. Any Dogs that missed out come and get em.

wtf?

They are indeed. I was able to add 999 to my cart!

Weird, I wonder if they were trying to put up the first of the New 11 series and made a mistake.

what if the wardog gets put on semi-permament status!

Nah...I think Dan just worked extra hard to steal some more INFI for the dogs, and he's come through BIG-TIME!! Way to go, Dan! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

It is an excellent knife, if it stays up very long I may not be able to resist getting a Tan

I wonder if it was a mistake or someone cancelled a large order?

I'm calling it as a mistake. Dan would take care of the dogs and let us know rather than just throw it up there.

I hope the big dog himself or a mod will chime in.

Bet it is a mistake.

Some one should email Renee or Dan. They weren't up a few hours ago. What gives? Someone place an order.

I sure hope it is a mistake and it was supposed to be one of the 11 series for my sake but on the other hand, if the WD is back up it's good news for those that need one so either way some dogs will be happy.

Unfortunately, the Mods don't know any more than you do! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Glad they went up. I missed it and now just ordered one. Does anybody know if Brian Okuden has one of these for a pattern? any other kydex makers have one?

Kelly

I can't say if okuden does but I know Al Welke and Rainwalker do.

I don't think it's a mistake. I bet it's a cancelled order or just another set of new knives. But I am wondering the silence before the new release of WD. We did get a heads up for the Scrapizashi. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />

yep for the headsup, I think its a sticky

Picking up my second WD today <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Oh, I wish I could too. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Its a great knife. If I already didn't have two, I'd get another. Hmmmm, since mine are both black, maybe a tan handle now........ <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I fell into the trap. Just ordered a tan to go with the black.

As far as letting us know I think it is just crafty marketing. Dan let us know the Scrapazashi WAS NOT going to be around any longer. But when they put something up, many times we don't know when, and it keeps people checking out the store. Just like many times we don't know when something will "sell out". That is until they make more.

Anyone know how to order with a moneyorder anymore? No "print and call" option

So tempting...only knife in along time I'm tempted to have 2 of...tan handle...hmmm....

I was stroping the heck out of mine last night thinking how much I like it! It's nasty sharp with an edge that's about glowing!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Oh man I'm tempted, but... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

What I would like to know if this is the same we got the first time around. If it is, we are seeing a change in the same blade not being re-released. I know there is releases of the same blades but there are differences, even if they are small tweaks, grinds, colors, etc.

I don't see how it could be a mistake in posting a new release of say a SY series because when they were changing the info and updating the would have to verify.

Some are saying it could be a large order that was cancelled. That would have had to be a serious large order as someone said that when they checked out they had 999 in their basket.

So, what is the deal?

I'm glad that some of those who didn't get it the last time have a chance now, but a little disappointed I wasted my time checking constantly. If it is the same what happened to "limited production", "good luck getting them". Etc.

Ilove mine but it was made to sound limited, unless these are a different grade or model, but I don't think so.

It is abuisness and I want them to sell as much as they can, and I support them still 100 percent but kinda feel misled a bit.

But I'm shallow so I'm over it now <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

You're not shallow, the water just isn't deep.

@Sar5: I understand your feeling <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> the limited is now not as limited anymore <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

well, the 4th does celebrate the Declaration of Independence, which is also the beginning of a war...

I too was originally a bit disillusioned to see it up again, Sar5. But then I placed an order, and got over it. Let's see how long it stays up. I too am guessing canceled order though. Maybe economic sabotage? Some folk spent more than they thought they would at Blade and it's nowhere near April 1st.

Also, I highly doubt it would be any different than our current war dogs, as the picture on the store site (front page and Wrd Order page) shows the War Dog we all know and love. I wondered why that picture was up for so long. Now we know why?

An official post would be most welcome and enlightening.

I suspect Dan was being conservative when he set the original number of War Dogs he was going to sell. After building all that were ordered, he probably saw he had enough material to make X number more, so they opened up the orders again. All conjecture on my part, but that's what I think happened.

Getting problems to resist ordering a Tan War Dog ...<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" /> Got a black one coming ...

what to do ? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

My first post <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

This was posted by Renee on jun 11


While Dan posted this on jun 4

I wouldn't worry too much about it being less limited/more common...I imagine the WD will go the way of the muk...not enough to go around and folks pleading for more in the months and years ahead.

Yup, don't worry about being a limited (sort of) run but being a GREAT using blade. The more I play with mine the better I like it. It just feels so good in the hand.

I definitely see this happening!

couldn't help myself <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />

Got myself a Tan War Dog on order <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" />

But now is the question .... Do you got enough scrapyard INFI with 2 War Dogs... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

I see this as one great knife. It is a bit of a negative that there will be more out there, but as far as a user I see it as one of the best the yard has produced. The name War Dog suggests fighting knife and I see that purpose but I see it also as a great bushcrafter and or hunting knife as well. I think that I prefer the mudder handle a bit better, but it is close and the more I handle the War Dog the more I like it. It will be on my side this deer season.

Thx skorpyd afther hearing all good about your experience with the knife I feel that I made the right decision to get me a second one ... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


As for the collector value I think it was better if they went verry fast out of the shop...

But afther all the chaos I've seen on Ebay and people that missed out on the War Dog, All those reports of happy War Dog owners must be unbearable for the ones that missed out on it. But the heavy knife user and Dog in me are pretty happy that al those others can share the joy of the War Dog.

Also knowing I am starting a Weapons store in the near future, It would be a good knife to represent Scrapyard knives.It is clearly a alarounder of a knife But I don't know the policy of the big dog on selling there knives in a store ....

I think you can just put a note in your order. I did that with the last WD I ordered. Just send Renee a note and let her know to keep it on the straight and narrow.

If it is re-released then it is not limited. Like mentioned above if this is a new business model I will not loose sleep over it now or in the future. The War Dog is a nice blade, so far I like it the best of any of my Infi Yard blades.

SF45ACP and I used our War Dogs tonight in whipping up 14 pounds of venison chorizo and another 10 pounds of Italian sausage. I was ASTOUNDED at how well that 1/4"+ thick steel sliced through frozen venison and some frozen pork ribs I was also doing up. It is a fantastic blade and much better of a slicer than I would have thought. It certainly put to shame every knife in my kitchen drawer (which isn't very hard to do <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> )

I say, keep that sucker in the store! I'm really not too concerned with keeping the prices overly jacked up on the secondary market (over $300 on ebay for a WD!!!!). If this puts more Scrap Yard INFI in more people's hands, then I say that's awesome!

I took my black WRD out camping this WE & beat the heck out of it.
Got the handle all dirty throwing it & was thinking I'd like to have a tan one too.
Now to come up with the bucks.
Hope it's not a mistake & they stick around for awhile.

Completely agree with this.
Don't care about the resell value, a knife is made for being used and not for flippers to make a lot of money on it.
I hope they last at least until august. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" />
When SWMBO is away for a couple of weeks I might be able to get one <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I wonder, because I would guess most bussekin knives are safe queens given.

A number of us received ours weeks after the mass shipping. In response to an email, said Renni made a comment about production not starting back up until the weeks after blade. My guess is they outsold the available stock, or had a bunch re-aquired by busse combat for Blade, a had to run another batch.

SWMBO? I need some help on that one but if its what I think it means, I'll have to say, I'm trying not sneak anymore. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Note the word TRYING <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />

I have some pics of DT and myself doing it up with the WD's and getting the job done. After eating my fill of BBQ today, I'll try and get the pics posted. I'm getting ready to see the wife off today. She's heading to Okinawa for a month to visit her family.

SWMBO = She Who Must Be Obeyed.

I find it odd that there is no official response to such an important and significant action as re-releasing the war dog. I understand it's a holiday weekend, but I would guess it would require official permission to engage in a reopening sales of the war dog

Exciting, yes....but I don't see how it's important / significant. I wouldn't make such a big deal out of this, it's a really good thing folks.

There are only two things that can really happen here. 1) It's not real, and they have to do some damage control and notify everyone that they won't be getting a new War Dog (btw, I do not think this is the case), and 2) People receive new War Dogs <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

The only scenario that would cause issues with customers, might be #1 above...and knowing how well the Yard has treated me in the past, I know they would make it "right". Customer service has always been top notch.

I have a hunch that it is not a coincidence that more are being released as the Boss Jacks have started shipping again. It would make sense that the production of the BJs would leave some scraps for Dan to steal and make some more War Dogs from.

Just a thought.

I was actually thinking of selling my WD because of my inability to sharpen a convex zero edge. Perhaps this is a sign that I should keep it.

I would really love this knife if it was a mudder.

Looks like I'm finally nosing into the yard. Couldn't resist a WD at the factory price. Was hoping for a 3-5" under $100 but the WD has such great reviews...

So, sharpening a convex zero edge; sounds like I should rouge up my barber's strop and hold it loose while stroping. Don't think I'll want to touch it with my eversharp wheels. Has anybody got the best method for be sharpest edge? How do you work up a wire edge without losing the roll?

Really looking forward to my first Scrapyard knife.

Saw, WELCOME TO TO THE YARD! You're gonna like it here. MANY MANY good nice folks around. There are some sharpening threads on here both in the Knives Forum and Outdoors and Fieldcraft sections. Just look around for them and you'll find your answer in there somewhere.

What about those who invested their money in War Dogs?
supply and demand. Increase the supply, and the price goes down. Assuming this 2nd release is legit, my investment has now lost some value due to this 2nd release. Its simple supply/demand economics.
It will make me think twice before investing in bussekin knives again. Just saying.

Nothing is a sure thing, you take a risk investing in most anything. Like the stock market, sometimes it is up sometimes it is down.

I am guessing that the re-release is a mistake and there are no more knives.

I'm guessing that it was a business decision and they decided to make more to supply a demand. Obviously any thing they do is going to make some happy and some unhappy. So they figured more would be happy than unhappy. Bottom line is they have to continue to make money in order to keep building the blades we all love. Every new model is a gamble and they don't really know how well it will do until it's out of the barn. So when you find a winner you need to run with it for a while.

I don't think they would be so near sighted as to make more and alienate the collector crowd. In business, integrity > short term profit

edit: perhaps a large order was canceled, but to actually make more to sell would feel like ... a violation to me. That's just my feeling though based on existing posts about the war dog's limited status.
Either way, the lack of communication from the shop is disturbing to me.

I am guessing it was a mistake. I also wouldn't get too worked up about the lack of communication from the shop. It's a holiday weekend and if it were me I would be barbecueing and drinking. So I'm guessing that's where they are.

ToboTech, I'm guessing you weren't around for the SS4 release. It was also an LE but they offered a second batch of them also. They were from cancelled orders IIRC. It'll be interesting to see if it was an error with the store as that has also happened before. I doubt it will affect the price in the long run(six months from now) so your investment won't suffer, unless you need to turn it over now.

Indeed if they do business the way skorpyd thinks they wouldn't be any different from brands like Cold Steel, Benchmade,Gerber... They search afther a winning design and keep on making that design for years...

But they are much different,most of the difference is in the way they offer knives and the service they give there buyers... (there are more things like the Yard, the quality ect...)
I can't complain anymore because I ordered me a Extra War Dog. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

More scrap yard INFI from the factory is definitely a great thing. Those investing in Bussekin need a new financial advisor. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Dan said limited in supply, not in future release. It's not marked LE, SE, or numbered. So why would people expect it to be one time release only?

The war dog is my absolute favorite blade! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif" alt="" />

The problem with expectation is it leads to disappointment.
But, to answer your question in Dan quotes:


plus



Thats why I think either
A. its a mistake or
B. maybe some someone ordered a big order, then cancel if the knife isn't what they are looking for.

But I would think B would include some message from the shop, hence why I think A. - it is a mistake.

I will be very surprised if they actually manufactured more beyond the initial allotment of INFI.

I do hope it will be a permanent offer.
Being affordable it will give people the chance to handle an infi blade.
This experience will make some of these buying (more) Busse stuff, people who otherwise wouldn't be reached.
If you want to invest in knives you can do it in the Busse custom shop (or in Randalls if the return is more important for you than the use)
It would be great to give people that haven't got the funds available at the moment the chance of getting one of these later on at a reasonable price.

I don't find it near-sighted, in fact my respect for the bussekin would grow.
There will always be limited offerings upmarket.

I hope Dan will tell us the facts about this situation.

So, I'm thinking we are going to get some word on a new release real soon. There is something in the mood of the board. That's my psychic prediction for today. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Maybe we will have an answer today on this War Dog thing. We have thrown out lots of food for thought for Dan and gang.

Dogs

The War Dog is not available.

We have a new person helping on the web site and he must have turned it on by mistake.

Any orders that were placed since this error took place will be canceled.

I apologize for any inconvenience

Dan

Thanks Big Dog for letting us know the truth. It´s been quite a mess and confusion here... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

[censored]. Thought, hoped, I could get a WD at the ScrapYard price, won't pay the investors... S'what happens when you come late to the party.

While the quality and design of SY knives is what pulled me into the yard it was the declared intent to make them available at affordable prices that has won my support for Scrap Yard Knives as a company. Quality knives in the hands, not the safes, of the working class stiffs; I'll line up for that. I will continue to wait for the next releases and hope they include another in the same class as the WD.

I´m quite sure you don´t have to wait too long! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" />

Right Dan..?

Come on throw us a bone! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Thanks for the heads up Dan.