ScrapYard .22lr and less plinker thread!

I figured I would snap a pic and start a discussion thread here since I know there more than a few dogs who are familiar with the ~.22 caliber "pea shooter" firearms. I also wanted to emphasize the use of air rifles, slingshots, heavy duty squirt guns, or just having a really wicked rock throwing arm. I think these tools may get overlooked a bit when it comes to all of the hyper tactical info we may come find on othe gear forums. I think most of us can appreciate the honest and practical approach to gear that our community seems to adhere to. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

The reason this thread came to mind... I was over at my folks house yesterday and noticed a couple squirrels out having a great time in the back yard trees. I will usually see one or two out there during the day when I'm over so no big deal. I pay them very little mind but I know sooner or later they make a big mess of something. Every couple years or so I have a minute to kill (nice pun) and notice a pile of crap at the doorway so I'll grab my pellet gun and sooner or later knock one off. So yesterday I see two of them and it's no big deal and would usually forget about them until the mess shows up somewhere. But just before I turn around, in the corner of my eye I notice more movement. Two more of them! And sure enough another one runs up to join in on the fun!! Five fairly nice sized squirrels "justa" plucking away at the the trees. So five is just way too many!

So out comes the tools! 10/22 (maybe) and a Marksman 0035 with cheapo air rifle scope. Hope they enjoyed the romp! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

and here's my 2 pea shooters...


I would love to see what you guys are using and get a discussion going about air rifles and whatever else seems to "get the job done". Ive been thinking about even adding a slingshot or two to the collection.

Maybe the zombies will actually be really slow and it would just require a bit daily plinking to keep the driveway clear. We should be prepared.... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

As I have stated here before, my favorite Skunk killing tool is my RWS Diana model 45 .177 "Adult air rifle" I say adult cause a kid would have trouble lifting the thing! At one time I had a Beeman ss4 air rifle scope on it but took it off to put on my Colt AR15 A3. I have killed a total of 9 Skunks with it with the longest shot being about 30 yards. I hit him in the back of the head, spine shot cause he could only drag his hind legs and couldn't spray! finished him off with one more between the eyes. Those things (air rifles) can be pretty potent!

Good thread lazi! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Had to correct this, I have killed a total of 10 Skunks. I had to go check a paper Patty made up.

I just received a new Ruger Air Hawk, but haven't had a chance to use it yet. I have killed several possums and rabbits with my son's old Daisy 880 powerline though. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

I love my Ruger 10/22 carbine with synthetic stock and a Simmons 3-9x32 Truplex scope. It is reliable as hell and blast to fire.

I used to sit out on the river in Louisiana and pic the tree rats out of the trees on the other side. I'd paddle over and collect them later for gumbo. Seems like the water between us made them feel a little safer.

Regular rats would have had more meat on them. Actually when I first read it the TREE part of it didn't register and I had to read it again. I mean I know you're at least part Cajun but regular rats! Not unless I had to or it was presented to me as a dish that the others were eating as well.

I ate some rats in Thailand. It was one of those "presented to me as a dish other were eating" situations. Taste like chicken <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Rat isn't bad, it depends on how it was raised. I wouldnt eat sewer rat... ever...

I have a Crossman .177 cal break open pellet rifle. It's only supposed to put out 1000 fps, but on cooler days it has exhibited ballistic crack, so it has shot faster than 1200 fps.

I also field a Savage Model II .22 LR bolt action repeater. I mounted a Redfield Tracker on top of it, and I've taken several prairie dogs out past 300 yards with it. I try not to hit then with it past that range, because it doesn't reliably kill with the first hit, but it's a tack driver, no doubt.

My Izhmash .22lr Biathlon Basic....she wears a Leupy 3-9 EFR (which I've updated with M1 turrets for longer range).

Ishi, what's up with the strange looking bolt handle on that thing.

Straight pull bolt action. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Toggle Bolt Action...identical to those seen / used on Biathlon rifles.

This rifle is called the "Biathlon Basic", as it is intended to be scoped and is not meant for actual biathlon competitions.

These little rifles are insanely accurate.

A Youtube of the biathlon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVjA63IxC80&NR=1

Photo of updated M1 turrets:

Ish, Ever shot a Swiss K31? Toggle action kinda like this, but in 7.5mm. Very nice old guns, and up until recently could get them cheap!

My favorite 22 is an old Ranger 22 bolt action repeater that I got from an uncle.
It probably about 100 years old now.
No scope or bipod, just a simple kids gun

Started huntin' cottontails and ground squirrels with a slingshot before bows and guns. Actually became pretty accurate with it out to 50 feet or so. With the ball bearing ammo I used, it was deadly!

I'll have to find that thing and fire it up again. I'm sure the surgical tubing is rotted by now. Boy does this bring back memories.

Haven't hunted in a couple years but for small game I would use my Savage O/U 17HMR/12ga. For some reason I prefer small game and bird hunting over large game, pheasant in particular.

Great thread, thanks. Fred

Fred, you just brought back some great memories of my childhood wrist rocket. I too have many confirmed kills with the thing. It was always nice when I broke down and bought some bearing ammo to shoot at the critters, but I bagged a few with just rocks.

I want to dig mine out when I get back to the U.S. and see if I can still hit something with it.

Ahhhh, the good old Wrist Rocket. Had a great time with one myself, many years ago. Good times.....

I have a Savage .17 HMR and a Ruger 10/22 for my rifles, and a Ruger MkII Slabside Target Model for my smallbore pistol. I'd like to have a lighter rimfire pistol so I could carry it fishing and such, the MkII I have is just too heavy for extended carry.

.22 rifles are awesomely fun. They are cheap to shoot and are perfect for small games <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />.

I have a 10/22 that I put some nice plastic stock on and a bear mt. barrel. shoots better than me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />. I'm going to see if I can snap a few pics later.

rth548
You may want to look into the Walther P22. Very light a fairly accurate but not as accurate as your Ruger. A few years ago I bought a barrel for the P22 in 17H2.
Sweet little set up, just wish it was more accurate.

My brother has a Walter. It's ok, but not what I want. Looking for an old S&W 622 auto, or maybe a 617 revolver. Maybe even a Ruger Single Six Convertible, .22 and .22mag in one package.

That would be Walther, Dang auto correct!

HA! Brings back many memories! some that were quite costly <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />. Learned the hard way to watch my backstop, long before I got my hands on a .22

Haha,don't know about you but a window is VERY expensive on a kids allowance!

did aite research online and it seems the ruger air hawk is pretty impressive. would like to know what you come up with when you finally get it out.

Bet you learned to aim better! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

My better half has a 622, she really likes it. Very light and pretty accurate. After a couple hundred rounds you must strip it down and clean it or it will fail. The single six is a great choice, I've had one for years.
The most accurate 22 pistol/revolver I own is a Government model Ruger MKII. A real tack driver, but heavy. 6 7/8 bull barrel that now sports a Leopold 4X EER scope, a great tree squirrel pistol.

Yep, I've got that one covered with the MkII Slabside. Shoots better than I can, but it's pretty heavy to carry in a hip holster. I've got a bandolier holster for mine, but still gets unwieldy after a while.

My mother ended up replacing it... I payed for it until I was 16 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Shooting at Gophers is a part time Summer job around the farm.
Those nasty complex diggin sons of guns make holes the size of a 10 inch softball at random ALL over 5 acres of must be mowed grass.

Bouncing up and down in these holes on a Saturday afternoon is NOT fun.
Not to mention they eat as much as they can from our vegetable garden. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

I don't use the Scrappers to skin and trim them,they're just for content.

I ride the John Deere with that pistol in a quick draw holster.

Many times the mower scares a big one up and as he races across the grass to the next entry to his underground NORAD I have stopped them cold. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Success! It feels good. Out comes the black garbage bag,drop one... keep mowing. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

I love cutting the grass! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


Peace.

Can I help with your chores this year POP?

POP, your lawn mowing sounds MUCH more exciting than mine! You could charge for that!

I use a S&W Model 17 revolver, a Glenfield single shot, a Henry Golden Boy, or CZ 452 American with a scope for my plinking.

My yoots on their .22's.

.17 HMR is my favorite round. I used to own six of them until I had to sell a bunch of my guns. Now, I'm down to just an open site CZ and a Ruger.

I use the Ruger 77/17-VMBBZ. It was "tuned" by the previous owner, but hardly used (elderly gentleman who collected far more than he would shoot). Now that it's sighted in, I can take Grey Diggers out to 150 yards with confidence. Today, I took 4 of them at that 135-155 yard range and a few more at 50-100. I started passing up the close ones to practice my "long-range" shots.

I also have an airforce condor. It shoots .22 caliber pellets pretty fast. When the starlings start to show up in the spring, I have frequently drop half a dozen of them in one sitting.

the condor looks like a best of an airgun. looks like it about as loud as they get though. I may pick up another airgun at some point but I'd be looking for something on the quiet side.also something tipping on the 1000fps mark.

I think I'm going to sell my .17...

I've got a Ruger 10/22 and a Buckmark Browning as well. The .17 funds would likely go to another .22.

I really love my .17 HMR. I wish I had gotten one of the 10/22 Mags that were converted over to .17 HMR, but I think that ship has sailed.

Ya, mine is a Marlin with a heavy barrel and Nikon Buckmaster scope.

I had one that I converted to a .17hmr. I liked it, but had to let it go for funds. If I ever go for another semi-auto .17hmr, it will be a christensen arms upper.

the company magnum research was making rifles and pistols based on the 10/22 in .17hmr and .22 magnum. looks like they did a recall on some of the ones in .17 though. I've been seeing for a some months now that semi autos in .17 may have some issues. i recall seeing somewhere that .17 was just not intended to be fired from semi auto firearms and the design of the round doesn't support it.

there is also another company called excel arms (excelarms.com) making semi autos in .22, .17, and 5.7x28. interesting stuff...

keltec may be bringing out a rifle in .22 magnum that is based on their PMR30. I would like to get my hands on one of those when they are released.

I used to pack a slingshot with me while deer hunting. It worked deadly on grouse and didn't ruin the deer hunting.

Does anyone know how to make a quality slingshot, given a SHTF scenario? I think it would make a great tool to have.

Me and my dad made a sling out of some kite string and the leather patch off the back of some old jeans when I was young. Pretty simple to do. Just attach a couple of 2-4 foot pieces of string to both sides of the leather patch or anything else you can use to hold the ammo. Put a small loop on the end of one fo the strings to loop around your wrist or thumb and you are ready to go. Takes more practice to get the aiming down, but after a few hours of fiddling with it, My and dad were able to knock Campbell cans over from about 20 yards. Left a sizable dent in them too. Definitely take out a squirrel, but you'd need to be farther away I expect. Not too many squirrels are going to stick around once you start swinging that thing around.

Check out this slingshot ninja!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ieWrWLjii0

Awesomesauce.

Grab a y shaped branch and whittle it down until you can fit a couple of pieces of surgical tubing around the ends tightly, then attach a leather pouch to the loose ends of the surgical tubing. The tubing will tighten as tension is placed on the bands, so you shouldn't have to worry about the tubing slipping unless it was way too loose of a fit to begin with. should work well enough, did for me when I was a kid.

Whenever I get a chance I think im going to pickup a few feet of surgical. I tend to make all sorts of gadgets and it seems this stuff has plenty of uses. I'm making a point now to keep an eye out for anything that has the potential to become a slingshot. I noticed I some old leather belts and couple boots out in storage that would make for good pouches. oh and you can find bags of marbles at dollar stores. could have a vase full of those sitting by the front door and nobody would even know that it's really just ammo. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

and digging around I came across a cool old .22. a old Remington 550-1. i think the models is ~60 years old. it's a tube fed .22lr semi auto. seems like a very solid rifle. hope I get a chance to shoot it some soon.

lazi, I have a remington speedmaster model 552. It's got a mini shroud over the ejection port. I used one like it that belonged to a friends older brother back in the 60's. I'm not sure when mine was made thought. Nice rifle. 22 short, long or long rifle! Not many of those around today!

Talk about coincidences! I have one of those too. It's actually my dad's, but I approprated it years ago. Love to shoot it. I killed my first squirrel with it, and my first deer as well. Lots of memories with that gun....

I'm just gonna say it... I think Dan should make a sling shot!


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SR-77 with a RES-C grip slingshot? I'd buy one!

$10 Trumark sling shot + 3lb bag of marbles = a lot of fun!

money well spent for any body who likes to take aim and fire. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

1 coat hanger, 50 red rubber bands and the waist portion of y our jeans as a patch. We used to make these and arm all the kids in the apartment complex I grew up in.

Basically bend the coat hanger in the shape of a slingshot using double bends, double up the rubberbands and string together using a loop though lock down to desired length and attach to patch and slingshot. We used to take out birds at 25 yards with ease. Unripened olives from a tree was our ammo! Works great!

I might have to go build one for old times sake!!!

Those were the good ole days!

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This guy makes some awesome slingshots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSU1jQoGIqo

well if you post a "how to" iresh im thinking it would be cool to give one a try. ive been thinking of grabbing some odd and ends and doing some gadgeting and that would fit the bill nicely.

For you Lazi....Absolutely! Im going to make one this weekend and post it up...Takes about 5 minutes.....Ill feel like a kid again too!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

did a little window shopping and came across a fairly new airgun by Stoeger called the X20S. It's a surpressed airgun that's kicking .177 or .22 pellets out at respectable speeds. Seems it's based on some fairly common makes of airguns being made in China. The price seems pretty good for the package. I have one of these on my short list now. That or a Benjiman Trail NP XL...

Stoeger X20 surpressor

Good thread Lazi. I'm going to pick up a Ruger 10/22 tomorrow. It should be fun and cheap to shoot. I'm going with the black synthetic stock and stainless steel barrell.

I saw the stainless in dick's the other day. great looking gun.

my 10/22 has been a fun gun to own. stock i put on it worked out great for it. I want to change out the sights and that's it for that one. Later on would like to pick up a 10/22 charger. think I found a way to put iron sights on one and still have a scope rail. there's a just a million things you can do to a 10/22 that's for sure.

I picked it up Friday...But I got the Walnut/Stainless instead of the Black synthetic. its a nice little gun...Can't wait to go shoot it.

There is two Videos click on the images....sorry for the bad video...camera phone!

AWSOME! If I has thought of this as a kid I would have been in SO much trouble!

I WAS! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/loopy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/loopy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Hehe

very cool Iresh! will see what I can do as soon I find some rubber bands. You answered all the questions I could have about rigging one of those up. I like the idea about the twist in the handle. I was thinking something like that would be needed but seeing it helped.

will post pics of what I come up with.

Yea The red rubber bands doubled or tripled up give a much better velocity but Thats what I had at the time....

You could make a way beter sling shot with surgical tubing but I think the point is being able to make one with what you might be able to find easily and this about hits that mark...look forward to your ideas...It was kinda fun doing that again after..I dont know....35 years <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />

Ireash, great video, reminds me when I was young. I think I still have the wooden body of the sling shot my dad carved for me in Germany. Thanks for posting.

Very nice setup. I got a Ruger 10/22 for Christmas this last year and will eventually trick it out with bull barrel thumb hole stock and double set trigger. The barrel will be a 1-10 twist for sub-sonic 22LR. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

very nice guns. Someday I need to drop some buck on a well made air rifle.

I picked up a Marlin Model 25 (?) of my brother a few weeks back. This is one of the older marlin bolt action rifles with the tube feed system. I had shot it before, and really liked it. I really did not have a good knock around fixed sights .22lr so I figured for a 100 bucks I could not go wrong. I shot it some on Sunday and had a blast. All I need is to get a sling stud and instal (holes already there) and get a buddy of mine to make me a para sling. I got to say, open sights at a hundred is still fun!

for the record, I'm a 10/22 fan myself.

took forever to get "on" with the scope I had on the air rifle. scope kept shifting and apparently i had a lesson to learn about shooting it. finally ended up taking a quarter and truning be front screw as hard a I could. fellt it turn turn a good bit more than i expected. that seemed to do it as for the scope. also turns out I need to get some more "follow through" to my shots. watched a review on air rifles and the guy mentioned it about "springer" air rifles. once I did those two things I'm actually impress by my old air rifle. still not as mug power as I would like but a head shot at 30 yards seems to be the ticket.

And the reason I started this thread...

I took a head shot at this fellow at around 25 yards or so but think I was high to the right. Spooked him and he took to the trees. Reloaded and followed him as he was heading home. He decided to stop and take a look at me. I got in right on the cheek bone. He went straight down in his tracks but a toe nail got caugh in the tree bark. He hung there for maybe 3 minutes before he finally came down.

dead squirrel..

told my dad I saw about five of them one day. he says he's seen about eleven <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />! so there's still a few more that need to go as far as I'm concerned.

lazi, I have read in numerous places that an "Adult" air rifle will destroy a regular rifle scope. Something about the recoil operating in two different directions and regular centerfire scopes not made to handle that type of recoil.

That's an air rifle scope Im using on there now. I think it's a cheap Walther scope or something like that. I had read the same thing and figured it might do fine for the air rifle or 10/22. This air rifle kicks pretty hard form the spring motion and the scope mounts wouldn't stay tight. Inwas ready to take the scope off and ditch the rifle in the closet. On what was to be my final attempt I gave it a hard turn with a quarter instead of the screw driver. It was still another 1/4 turn I had in there past where I had been tightening it before. Felt like going over a hump. It's been good ever since. It was putting pellets in the same hole at 25' after that. Something weird was still happening that would suddenly change where the shots went. Turns out that was all me. Really have to have more follow through than I was used to and also have to think about how you are holding it. I was pretty impressed once I worked those things out. I think my shooting overall will improve with what I learned from the air rifle. My understanding of "follow through" is now at times two from where I was before.

yeah My air rifle is REALLY accurate. IF I do my part it will put pellets inside a dime at 10-15 yards all day long. May not sound like much but with open sights and my old eyes, pretty good.

well I have been finding that all of my wire hangers suck bad for a homemade slingshot. they metal is thin and bends way too easy. I also only had a handful of rubber bands that come on the newspapers. These are definitely not hunting materials. I may have some time this weekend to kick the idea around some more. I know its easy to go buy a sling shot for $6-$15 but I'm down to do a little tinkering. May run by a hardware store or two just to see what can be made for less than $5.

This looks like a possible new revolver for me.
http://www.ruger.com/products/newModelSingleSixSingleTen/specSheets/8100.html

My 10/22 was made before the extended magazine release. The red part fixed the problem and then some. It takes about 5 minutes to install if you a little cleaning while you are at it.

Those rings/bases would work so you could see the iron sights if you didn't want to use the scope. But with a 50mm objective lens you can't see the front sight anyway.

I like that revolver Sumo but not the msrp. price. looks like it will street for around the same as or close to the semi autos. 10 in a magazine vs. 10 in a cylinder? I think mag... I would like to handle one though.

Didn't know Ruger was making 25 round mags now... http://www.ruger.com/micros/BX-25/index.html?r=y

Only have a couple steel lips but plan to pick up a few more. I thought about the aluminum mags that seem to get pretty high marks. Think it's Tactical Solutions maybe?... I maybe would prefer the clear/smoke plastic though. I like that you can take them apart but so far I've had no need for that. May snag one if I ever see it in a store somewhere and if the price is simlar to the BC steel lips. But factory labeled usually comes with a higher price. Would be cool if they start shipping these with a few models!

If the new Ruger revolver was available with a 10 shot mag cylinder it would be a no brainer for me. But, being in 22 lr only I will probably pass and hope I find a Kel Tec PMR 30 someday.

I would like a prm30. They seem really nice w/ 30 rounds of 22mag.

Interesting how many s&w 422/622 pistols are owned. I've a 422. Any ideas on hoow to mount a scope w/o using the grip replacement version? Anyone put the barrel threading adaptor on their's?

My favorite 22lr pistol is my Kadet unit on my custom cz sp-01. I may even have a rail for it, I like letting new shooters use a red dot sight. Extremely accurate and reliable and good training.

I have an airsoft p226 x5 open. It is a blowback pistol with an identical operation as the sp01. Without the rail (which I want to try on the kadet), compensator, and mag funnel the weight and size are really close. The mags can hold the same # of rounds as the 9mm and since the co2 is in the magi I can also practice mag changes. I just need to clean out the garage and have the 2yr old away for an afternoon to try it out.

I put a lot more ammo through my .22 rifles than my center fire rifles. Both my Ruger 10/22 and Marlin 39a are fantastic shooters. I have Leupold 2x7 rimfire scopes on both. The 39a will shot everything from subsonic .22 shorts (that sound like a pellet gun) to CCI stingers. I’ll work on posting some pictures.

my oldest daughter's boyfriend has airsoft guns that cost as much as some of my rifles
he loves them

I like air guns for a few reasons. They are pretty inexpensive, or can be. The two pellet pump pistols, 400fps and upto 600, really only cost a tin of pellet. These two seem very accurate so precise shots are easily possible. They have single shot operation with essentially no recoil and little noise. This combination is ideal for giving starting shooters a cheap, convenient (on the backyard or garage), and non-intimidating introduction to the fun of shooting.

I've been able to get a few non-gunners to have some fun killing icecubes and tin cans, something I wouldn't be able to do even with a single-shot 22lr. The blow-back, repeating airsoft is a nice next small step up.

just pulled out and disassembled my 10/22 trigger group. I think I'm going to do the auto bolt release mod and see if I can do a bit of a trigger job. Maybe sometime this weekend...

looks easy enough. but I wonder how many people say that just before they loose a limb or two?

anybody else tried these mods?

Auto bolt release mod is easy. Go slow and test fit a little at a time. If you mess it up the rifle will still fire and you can buy a Volquartzen part to do what you want. Its a win win.

For a trigger job I highly recommend you just install a Volquartzen hammer. It usually drops the trigger pull down to 3.5-4 lbs.

started on auto bolt but still didn't get it rounded off yet. busy week so maybe next week. I'm actually just glad the bolt hold will drop when I hit the button. River overbuilt that piece for sure.

the hammer does sound like the right way to go for the trigger job. and its cheap enough as well. I doubt this 10/22 will be my "nice" .22 but I want to upgrade it some. I would like to have another with all the fancy stuff. threaded bull barrel, scope with nice mounts, hogue stock, bipod, etc... I would like to even have a couple for the aluminum mags for something like that. I guess I can see now how guys end up with $1k+ in a $180 rifle. At least the ammo is cheap...

I actually took the trigger apart and put it back together without any tutorials.. just a thing I like to do. so dont ever ask me to put together any furniture for you. but I guess I'm trying to warm up to some more significant mods on other firearms. hopefully I will leave the right stuff to the smiths but I'm thinking a few builds could be the way to go in the future. best to tinker with a 10/22 and work my way up. yet another reason .22lr firearms are so cool.

Anybody have any experience with the Marlin 795?
On sale locally and hard to pass up.
Throw this under the back seat of the truck and forget about it.
If it's inaccurate I won't bother.
Thanks, Fred

http://www.turners.com/engage/displayads.php

44fred, I don't know about that model, but Sumo is big into firearms and he speaks well of the Marlin Papoose, a take down that comes in it's own soft case.

nutnfancy did a few videos speaking pretty highly of marlin 22lr rifles. he used a few specific models but I think his comments may have spoken to marlin 22 rifles in general.

at that price it it looks like a good deal to me.

I just bought 2 Marlin 795s. One for my nephew and one as a loner for some Appleseed shooting I am getting involved in (www.rwva.org). Initial test show it to be reliable and plenty accurate. If you like the feel and the features it is well worth the money. I also believe Marlin still has a $25 mail in rebate on them.

Thanks for the reply.
They go on sale pretty regular. I'll get one
next time.
Fred

Hopping in this thread without reading everything. I have a happy story and a sad story. When I was a senior in high school I was deciding what gun I should get and was talked into getting a Ruger 10/22. I love that thing and it has been used for many a fun day of plinking. The sad story: While I was debating which gun to get, I went with the 10/22, right? Right. The other gun I was considering was the winchester ranch hand. It's a .44 mag lever action with an 18 1/2 in. barrel. I was talked into getting the 10/22 because it would be cheaper to buy and to shoot. I could always get the Winchester later. WRONG! A little later, Winchester was bought out and the prices shot up. I really enjoy the 10/22, but wish I had gotten the Ranch Hand. I also have a 22lr pistol that is bolt action single shot with an 8 in. barrel +-. That is fun. Not too reliable though.

One caution:
Especially with a well-used model.
Sometimes the threaded collar becomes worn enough that when fully tightened, the barrel-to-receivier fit is such that the barrel/front sight is a little canted (in my case, to the right). This can really affect sight picture/accuracy.
Otherwise, a sturdy little plinker.

okay, I thought a couple hundred for a airgun was the way to go. After looking at all the options I had narrowed choices down to three .22 caliber air rifles.

Stoeger X20S - Super Quiet, decent power, light, accurate...

Benjamin Trail NP - Pretty much just a step up from the X20s for $30. A little more power better scope and a few more feature.

Benjamin Trail NP XL - Way more power. Bigger, heavier, and around $300. This one appears to be the winner except for price.

So I juggled the idea of all three but I decided to watch a video on the Benjamin Marauder. All I can say is it's a stupid nice rifle but it's not cheap compared to the more common air rifles. It's a PCP air rifle like the Air Force rifles but this one is "shrouded" and very quiet. It requires a separate pump ($200) but pushes lead at around 900-1000 fps. After looking at a handful of videos and reading reviews I'm totally sold on this one but admit that price is hard to do even if I had the funds. While .22 air rifles are not touching .22 rimfire I'm thinking the Benjamin Marauer is close enough to a surpressed .22 that I can justify that price tag though.

I'm guessing ~$800 for a decent surpressed .22 rim fire setup. You get paper work, visits to the FFL, and wait time of 3 months (I've heard). You do get to run full house .22LR ammo in that setup though. A Marauder and pump run ~600 and come straight to your door. So, I think I'll take a standard 10/22 with a Marauder on the side for $800.

There is also a Marauder pistol that ships with a butt stock. No FFL or paperwork to send lead down range in a compact rife. There's just times I want to punch holes in paper and cans. I don't need a powerful varmint rifle myself so the pistol version is on the table. But it's actually running the same power as the much cheaper X20S.

Oh and I forgot, The Marauders are repeaters. It doesn't take a lot of time effort to reloed. basically works like a bolt rifle. The pump on the other hand is supposed to provide a decent workout experience. Its suppose to give 30-40 good shots on a fill. Uses about 3-5 pumps in every shot. So 100+ pumps to get back to max. And the pump is $200 and sold separately. Also if noise is not an issue then there's the Benjamin Discovery.It's a single shot and can be shrouded but and the package with pump would be hundred less than the Marauder.

Just figured I share what I learned... Call me a big kid but I'm hoping there's a something like a Red Rider under the Christmas tree for me this year.

Nice lazi. But personally I don't like the extra gear (pump). I've had my .177 RWS rifle now since 1992 and have never had a complaint against it. Do some more checking, I know there are some really nice .22 cal pellet rifles out there for three bills and you don't need another piece of gear to lug around and break on you. And several of the .22 cal rifles are spitting them out at 900+ FPS, which is more than enough to kill possum and coon size game at 20-30 yards with accurate shot placement.

Just thought I would throw my 3 1/2 cents into the mix.

the first three I mentioned are actually plenty of rifle for sure. its just amazing how many features and likable things they put into the Maruader. A rotating 10 round clip, adjustable power, presure gauge, barrel shroud, 1lb "match grade" trigger. And from the vid reviews it was pretty consistent performance across the board. I don't like the extra pump myself but when you consider 30 shots without every having to shift you hold on the rifle then i think that's a good deal fro most practical purposes.

The whole pump thing can get pretty expensive as well since they are specialized. But I really don't see it as being a huge negative on this type of rifle.

Another thing is that I already have an air rifle that gets the job done but it kicks like a jacked up mule. Not the funnest plinker in the world. It's because of the violent action of the huge spring. Thats the main thing keeping me from just grabbing the Stoeger and calling it a day. It doesn't appear to be as bad but if I'm goin to grab an air rifle I might as well upgrade. It's called a Nirtro Piston which is the NP in the Trail series. They are both fine rifle and plenty or rifle. The XL seems to be plenty for all things you would consider for a .22 air rifle. But at $300 the question was what's next. The break barrel loading can be a tedious process when plinking but I could live with it. The Marauder is more like a magazine fed bolt rifle for up to 30-40 full powered shots. It takes forever and a whole lot of movement to put 40 shots through a break barrel air rifle. Quiet is a but of a priority to this as well. Pretty much anything else is going move a lot of air and get pretty loud. I also would like to stay just below subsonic and still hit hard. Trail NP XL does hit that mark. Is this stuff worth $600? I feel it is if it can stop me from wanting a supressed .22 and also be able to show up at my door without any hassle. All I want to do is move lead fast, efficiently, and quietly. The feature of the Marauder seem to cover that better than anything else I've seen. But acquaint funds will be the determining factor. I always choose to buy a quality rifle when I can. I don't have enough requirements to justify spending more but can justify reasons for not spending less than the Marauder. Oh and the Marauder is US made with "some foreign parts".

I think for long term the Marauder takes the win. If I just wanted to pick off a possum I would spend the $150 and get something for that. There's also quality rifles like RWS and Beeman and a while bunch more. But when it comes to shooting just for shootings sake I think there's apt going for the Benjamin Marauder.

Now that I'm wording my thoughts out it's starting to really seem like the way to go.

Benjamin has been in the business for a long while, matter of fact the first two "Air Rifles and Pistols" I ever used were benjamin. They were and I am sure still are good guns. I also like the 30-40 shots on a load of air and the magazines would sure be handy. I was just basing it on the extra weight and expense an POSSIBLY as a long term foraging rifle for small game.

Certainly can't argue with your well thought out reasoning. I say GOPHERIT! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Great thread guys

so I had a old phone and finally chewed a fist sized hole through the center shooting pellets at 30 or so feet. I'm fresh out of phone books so I started looking for other options. turns out old magazines and newspaper ads stacked in a proper sized box make for good pellet traps. I had a old box from a blender that was the perfect size. I stacked the magazines up with the binding toward the rear of the box since I figure by the time I chew threw a few magazines this I should know it but if I don't the added density would prevent pellets from doing to much damage. I also decided it's probably best to allow the magazines to slope upwards towards the rear. The last thing I did was find a metal panel to put behind the trap so to prevent any pellets from punching through the trap and hitting dry wall. I also hope to find metal panels to place on the sides and a larger piece of plywood or particle board to reduce the damaged of any potential flyers.

I haven't shot this trap with any .22lr but I am using a pretty hard hitting .22 caliber air rifle. all signs point to the heft of the magazine pages and the round hitting the page lenth of the page instead of the flat surfice as being more than capable of handing maybe 3-5 full house .22lr rounds in the same hole. probably will do much better since I have noticed that the pages tend to wad up in the back of the hole when shot along the lenth of the page instead of clearing a path. would definitely test it and find a much better backstop I was doing .22lr though.

big plus about his trap is that one you chew out the center you just replace the affected magazines with some more old one and you are good to go. almost anything that's 8x11 seems to be fine in my little box. probably have a few thousand shots shooting 5 target pages.

And I think I will find some kind of heavy canvas bag to dump the shredded mags in. something thatt may make for a nice quiet sling shot trap.

and... my pellet gun seems to hit about as hard as a cb short from my 10/22. haven't shot this the trap yet but im thinking this would be as good for cb shorts as it is for pellet guns.

sure it can handle a lighter pellet gun like a 1377 or 760 for a long, long time.

Marlin Golden 39A ... I'm deadly with it. Once (many years ago) shot the pencil-thin limb that held a big sort of conical-shaped bee (wasp?) hive hanging over the river that we would float fish in the Ozarks. Waited all season for the winter chill to take out the bees (wasps?) that inhabited it so we could take it as a souvenir for the cabin. Finally came the day late in the fall when it seemed there was no activity and it would be safe to claim our prize. It was a little out of reach, though, so I took aim with my .22. One shot, down it dropped. Small problem... they weren't all dead. Weren't too happy, either. We held the nest under water with the big fish net for a little while, then scooped it up and took it home. It hung in a distinguished place on the screen porch for many years.

What's this got to do with shooting squirrels and such? Well, it's what I would use on them if I needed to.

P.S. I just came upon this thread, and haven't read all the posts. Hope this fits O.K.

Did someone say "air gun" ? Check this out !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsY0b_CRWpg

Now THAT'S an air gun <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I got the new Ruger SR pistol and the little sucker ran great. I've never owned any pistol before and going though a box of federal on Friday I put way more rounds out of it than in my whole pistol life plinking here and there with friends and family!

Gotta say the mechanics of pistol shooting feel so different to me...I might as well as never shot a gun ever! Boy, do I stink! Gonna need a lot of time, practice and some lessons. After just shooting my bolt action marlin a lot, having a little semi auto was fun! Blew through the box of 325! Probably doesn't help me shoot well, but it was fun!

this is what I came up with...

Just got a CZ 452 trainer...love it! This is from a rest at the indoor range, but in a couple months, I'll be tearing it up standing, then I'll scope it in the spring I think. Such a sweet rifle...

The 452 is hard to beat for a 22. I have a 452 Varmint and that thing rocks.

Not bad Rich, not bad at all. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

You better watch it though, you're turning into a conservative! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Really, and I can prove it.

Conservativeism. One who CONSERVES ammo by accurate shot placement, thereby using less ammunition to accomplish one's goals. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Congratulations!

Seriously Rich, I am glad you are enjoying yourself. An accurate rifle and being able to place your shots where you want them is a rewarding and addictive experience.

I told you Randy- the liberal left is arming up! We're coming with our guns, single payer health care and living wages! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I had the CZ for 5 minutes and was in love...I'm very pleased and happy I can shoot at the indoor range a practice a little more. Next step is either the 9mm or swapping out the sr22 for a buckmark! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

Rich, I am glad you got a CZ. I have had a few and my 452 American with a 3-9x Swift optic is the best .22 LR I have ever had. Funny thing is that my rifle prefers the cheap bulk ammo over the more expensive stuff.

Great looking rifle!

looks good JJ!

i almost feel bad for all those critters. but not really...

Thanks Lazi,

I did some shooting last evening. It was the first time I fired it outside of a range and without ear pro. I love it. It is not much louder than a loud hand clap. Reduces the recoil a bit too. Probably from the added weight. With the bull barrel and the suppressor, it is a laser beam for follow up rounds.

Run fuzzy bunny run!

That really looks nice JJ. Congratulations. Did you say you have ordered another one of some kind?

I'm thinking about giving up my five seven to do a supressor and a buckmark. certainly would shoot something like this a lot more.

Skunk, I did buy an Osprey from Silencerco for my Glock .45 ACP.

Lazi, I have been thinking about a Five Seven since this 22Sparrow will fit it and is rated for it.

Played with photoshop...

the fsn is already pretty loud. putting a can on it doesn't do quite enough from what I have seen. might want to watch some vids with them.

I love my fsn but wouldnt mind trading it something I will shoot more. even a pmr30 would get more trigger time than my fsn because of ammo price.

You make a good point. I was talking to another Marine about that too. He said just get a subsonic round, but that defeats the purpose of a Five Seven.

Nice photo chop JJ.

You cant go wrong with the discovery for a pcp and the fact that you can use a hand pump makes them that much better. here is my .177, I would like to get a big boar air rifle .357 to .58 sometime but thats for later.

I my RWS is the diana model 45 .177 break barrel. Oh did I mention I really like it. Over the last several years I have killed 12 skunks with it. 9 all of them were all over about 6 months.

Just a drive by posting. We' on our way out the door. Later folks.

RWS makes a real nice springer. My Ruger hasnt tasted blood yet but is a little tack driver out to at least 50 yards, I havent gone any further than that yet.

Cleaning a 22lr suppressor is much more of a chore than cleaning a 22lr firearm. Molten lead. Nough said.

Yeah I was wondering about the cleaning problem.

Is that the same Ruger you made he sheath for JJ? Thought you had one with a longer barrel... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

That is the same one. I made the holster long to accommodate the suppressor when I got it.



I got lucky and made it just long enough. (Nah, no luck, I measured twice cut once)

It is made by C.O.W.S.

Maybe that's why it is sometimes called COW hide! Hi JJ.

Hadn't noticed this thread before!

Squirrels and bunnies are NOT safe on my property with this hunter roaming freely! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />


Squirrel and bunny fur make great fish-catchers (I tie flies)!




The rifle is a highly modded Gamo Whisper. I had a few gift cards at one point, so bought the original rifle (would have liked to have gotten something nicer). In it's stock form, it wasn't good enough for me (I like to tinker), so I started by putting the GRT-III trigger on it. The "iron sights" sucked, so I took them completely off. Also, I didn't like the synthetic stock, so I bought that beech one you see directly from Gamo and made the Whisper guts fit into it (didn't take much). While I had it taken apart, I did a full tune on it.

Shortly after that, I still wasn't completely satisfied. It shot decent groups, but I disliked the spring twang and torque, even after the tune. So I decided to add a gas piston to it. I am pretty certain I was the first person to modify their Whisper to fit one (and maybe one of the only ones to ever do it).

The gas piston shoots much better, and is faster than the spring. No twang, just a solid "thunk" when you pull the trigger. However, the Gamo scope couldn't handle the recoil of the gas piston. It quickly died. I put a Wally-World special "CenterPoint" 4-16x40 AO scope on it, and it has been fine since. It is harder to [censored], but it doesn't bother me in the slightest. It runs just a bit under 1,000 fps with 8.8 grain Beeman Crow Magnums, and I have lost track of how many squirrels and bunnies it has taken over the last few years.

Here it is right after the new scope addition:



The copper cap on the end is to hold the cross-bolt in place which holds the action together. The new stock had some relieving around that area for a similar plastic Gamo part (which they would not sell me), and the bolt was walking sideways a bit. It made me uncomfortable, so I made this cap out of a plumbing part by pounding it to shape.

Ironic thing is that you can now buy a wooden stocked, gas piston driven Whisper straight from Gamo. Royalties please? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

Wow SP that's a lot of mods but it looks like it came out great. I would really like to get a disco and mod the heck out of it but bussekin has been eating all my play money lately.

Yeah, if I had it to do over again, I'd likely buy something else to begin with. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> But it is a sweet shooter! No regrets!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

nice rifle SP! pretty much any of these rifles can use some tweaks. at least now you know your rifle and probably will get more out of it over the years.

finally starting to be happy with my disco but did a bunch to it as well. lot of cleaning, depinged, power adjuster, steel bolt, muzzle brake, and added some trigger screws. but now I'm wondering if the pump is going to hold up. pcp means a whole bunch of other crap to buy and deal with thats for sure.

Hey lazi have you thought of going to nitrogen for fills? I hear it is the way to go.

I just picked up a Walther P22. Have not fired it yet need to fix that.

You should enjoy it. My wife loves hers.

Haha are you saying its a girls pistol <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Hahaha no no I shoot it also and enjoy it I am just stating its a good piece and I sir am no girl, well last time I checked anyways. lol

My .22 of choice is a Marlin Model 60. I don't LOVE the tube mag, but the micro-groove barrel makes for some super accurate shots. Plus, they're pretty reliable and also inexpensive on the secondhand market.

When I was a kid, my dad had a bolt action pump pellet rifle (don't remember the make) that was only supposed to be pumped three times according to the manual. If you went four or five, I guarantee you that thing was topping 1200fps. It was a beast. I want to get my hands on it eventually. I know he doesn't have much use for it anymore...

I need to get out and play with my 10-22 and Buckmark again.

Just traded into a like new Ruger Mark III it isnt much different than my 68 Ruger Standard.

I like 10/22's

My old Ruger Standard

Hope this helps:
The best trick I found when I was younger for killing off gophers is to buy some bubble yum brand bubble gum (if you can find it now) chew it up to the point where the flavor is gone (this is key). Then place the well chewed bubble yum inside the entrance of each hole after which you backfill the holes so that when the gopher has to reopen a hole to get fresh air and has to chew the gum up that is in the way. This then plugs up his guts and he swells up to die a well deserved painful death. It may work with other bubble gums, but they should have a similar softness to the bubble yum. It sounds silly, but it works and is much safer than shooting or gassing them, but maybe not as much fun. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

This thread reminds me of many hours spent in my childhood with air guns and .22 bolt action rifles.

A local shooting club had an outdoor range 50 yards down the road from where I grew up and for lunch money you could go get a box of .22 and a rifle and have fun.

Amazing thinking back at this now because I'm pretty sure the same people would get shut down today for renting even a single shot .22 to a 12 year old without any parents around <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

My first gun was a break barrel single shot air pistol. I was 10 and my dad got it for me for Christmas. My mom was livid, but I loved that thing despite the fact that I could barely lift it to keep it on target or load it myself <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Since then I had .177 and .22 air rifles (because you were allowed to own those without a hunting license).

Sad to think how the world has changed, especially the part I grew up in where these "toys" are now almost outlawed because politicians think they have to protect people from themselves. Please don't let it happen to America as well <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Great pics ^^^

Got to shoot the Walther P22 a bit I really like it.

Nice that's good to hear. A friend of mine just got one also it seems they are getting pretty popular.

My favorite at this point is my Marlin model 60. Only thing not to like is reloading the tube-fed mag, but there are tools that can help with that, like the Spee-d-loader (which I don't have yet). The thing is accurate as anything, even with plain old iron sights.

Custom 10/22 that I built from my well worn Ruger hat I used as a kid. 20" fluted stainless barrel, B&C silhouette stock, and a Japanese Tasco 8-32 scope. I trued the receiver and trigger group myself. 2.0 pounds of pull.

I also love to shoot my Buckmark Silhouette - I've had that about 20 years now.

adnj, I was just happening to look at 10/22 parts and came to check this thread out for advice.

How much of your original 10/22 did you keep?

By the looks of it you can buy pretty much anything, including the receiver, and I was considering if it was worth building a completely custom 10/22 without even having a donor rifle for certain parts.

Oh dear. Looking around some more.

Please, no-one answer my last questions, because I can see how easy it would be to spend a couple grand making a 10/22 from super nice parts <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Just picked this guy up.

Darn 10/22 25 rd mags are sky high because of the people(I use that term loosely) in the Whitehouse.

No, it's because everybody is buying them! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Got a scope mounted on my CZ 452 last night...nice!!

Big thanks to Ish for encouraging to pick up this rifle!

DeadEye Rich! Congratulations man.

I'm a monster off a rest at the indoor range! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> lol...those were the 1st 15 shots after dialing the sucker in

Such a great gun though! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

15 shots! Wow, how many yards. Actually that's pretty good no matter what it is.

Nice shooting!

CZ rimfires are one of the best .22 lr out there IMHO, the 452 that I have scoped has never failed me. I would like to get an international stocked .22 mag or .17 hmr in the future.

I love that gun!

It's just at the indoor range at 50 feet and on a rest..easy schmeezy. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/paperbag.gif" alt="" />

I gotta make freinds with a farmer here...I could cause havoc among bunnies and critters...my friends farm in Mass is too far for a quick jaunt...

Rich, Talk to them about nuisance critters. They will usually be more receptive if you volunteer to take out pests. And especially if you are just using a .22 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

I have a few farmers here in Utah who let me kill bunnies. They love it. They even tell me the best places to spot the crop robbers.

^^ Exactly what I was saying Rich. Thanks JJ.

The Utah hunting website has a printable form you and the private land owner can sign. It is an agreement for you to respect his land and for you to hunt on his land. They are small cards you can put in your wallet. I can't find it, but I know I got it from this website: http://wildlife.utah.gov

It is mostly a CYA thing.

When I get back home, I'll see if I can find it for you.

Here's one from Virginia http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/hunting/regulations/privatepropertypermission.pdf

I've even been invited in for a few beers after a successful hunt once. The old man was tickled I killed so many bunnies he wanted to toast me. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Come to think of it, cottontails are still in season here and no permit needed.

Cool!

any opinions about a sig mosquito.? this one came up as a trade item and i will be in the market for a .22lr pistol at some point.

My gunny has one and loves it. I fired it a few times and it felt great and I was getting tight groups in the first magazine.

thanks.. i see good and bad.

guy offered up that or a 10/22... already have on 10/22 but wanted another one to tinker with. the sig fills a void in my line up. leaning towards the sig.

My new plinker



Been wishing for this since the gold version was released last year. Much better design on this one IMO.

I picked this up a week ago, put this old scope on it and with no adjustment at all it shot this, standing at 25yards using a post to steady.



<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Dang! Very nice!

nice! didn't know they are doing a black one. that's what I was hoping for myself.

Get one for me <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Awesome score. I almost pulled the trigger on one when I bought the SR22P, but I couldn't justify two 22/45s.

What is the difference between this one and the gold one?

Nothing except the color.

It is purely aesthetic, but they also removed the vertical front and rear serrations in favor of fluting around the barrel. Hogue rubber grips have been changed to laminate grips.

Just checked Ruger's site and the gold version is no longer listed. Collector's item <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I didn't notice that until you said it. Good point. I like the fluting better. The serrations are god for a slide, but pointless on the 22/45. The fluting is pointless too except to shed a little weight.

Nice stuff guys.

To be honest I like the black Ruger in quetion much better for the looks, but the fluting does make more sense.

after thinking through a good bit it seems the newest version of the 22/45 lite is what
l should get. I like the black finish and the fluting way more than those serrations that look like they are meant for working a slide.

Just bought me a Hk A5 22 lr. Imported my Umerex but made by walther. Pretty sweet little carbine. Ill post a pic when I can.

Is that the 22lr look alike of the 416? I have a m&p15-22 MOE and all the controls function like a real AR but I heard the Umerex colt rifles didn't. The m&p even dissasimbles the same way as its big brother

ITs the mp 5 clone. It has the push pins like the real mp5 but thats as far as it goes to being like its big brother.

Here's a picture of it in the box.

nice rifle shoonmine!

I've always like the looks of the .22 mp5 clones. looks like a fun little rifle.

Thanks, I like it. Its definitely a fun shooter. It would nice to sbr it and get a real can but until I move out of California, thats not going to happen. Its actually made by Walther, licensed to Walther by HK and imported by Umarex.

Anyone has a MP 15-22?

gun dog was talking about his MP in a post above.

Kicking myself right now. I THINK I ordered the fixed sight version of this for my anniversary. Didn't mean to, but there ya go...with any luck someone will outbid me and I can pick up the one I REALLY wanted

I'm buying an SR22 sometime in the next couple of weeks.

And in about 6 months, I'll have a nice little addition to go on the end of the barrel.

A TGLB?

looks like ruger is making a .22 lr and .22 mag bolt rifle based on the ruger american. they take 10/22 mags and looksike it will run in the $250 range. looks interesting. but for $250 I think i'd just get another 10/22.

My thought also lazi

I rebuilt my Ruger 10/22 that I bought when I was a kid. B&C silhouette stock, stainless fluted barrel and an 8-32x50 Tasco (Japan optics!). I did the rework of the action and trigger. 2 lbs and 0.5mm of creep.

pretty nice set up ADNJ

Nice 22 dude. Mine is just a plain Jane 10-22 but I have thought about reworking it.

But for some reason I just (For accuracy) like bolt 22s.

I know what you mean, Randy. Here's a modern take on a more traditional design. I bought it for its versitility. Marlin XT-22. Bolt action, tube magazine, composite stock, stainless everything else. Fairly heavy barrel, but relatively lightweight overall. Shoots .22 short, long, and long rifle. Fairly high capacity, 17 rounds of .22 lr I believe. CB Caps through this thing are so quiet. Much quieter than a pellet gun. Quite accurate and fun to shoot.

Oh, and when I bought it it was the only tube magazine fed bolt action .22 made at the time. Not sure if that has changed.

I am thinking this one for my next rim fire.

http://www.basspro.com/Savage-93R17-FXP-17-HMR-Rifle-with-Scope/product/10218223/

Hmmmmm both nice rifles, but I think I would stick with conventional .22rimfire.

So did I Skunk and now I have a 22LR that costs as much as my 9mm carbine to shoot. lol I figure I may as well step up my game 17hmr is easy to find and cheaper when you do around here right now.

My only 22 is an old bolt action Ranger 22 that an uncle gave me not long before he passed away
I've had it since 1980

Loads of 17 available here too.

Isn't the 17 a lot more destructive than the 22?

Thanks for the compliments. I really like the 10/22 rebuilds. I have shot many 10 shot/50 yd bench groups that were .25" edge to edge. That is all day pot-meat shooting (even though I don't hunt anymore).

The Ruger 10/22 platform has so many available parts and so many tweaks that you can improve the accuracy with some aluminum shims from a soda pop can and a torque wrench. Many bolt actions are more accurate out of the box (like Savage and CZ) but it was a lot of fun dropping from 2 MOA groups to 1/2 MOA with some workshop time and a few parts.

I swear that my 10/22 shoots as well as my Remington 40X did and way , way less expensive.

I like the .17 calibers but the ammo isn't cheap when you compare it to a .223 - but it is a lot safer that a centerfire if you are shooting around the farm, less recoil, less noise, and a much lighter rig.





I think that the .17 is a great multipurpose round and fits the niche that it was intended to fill. But when I go out, I really like being able to blow through 500 vrounds of .22 LR - and I really miss the days of the $10 bricks of ammo from Kmart.

I have that exact gun, and I love it. It's pure poison on crows and other vermin.

Randy, if you use the V-Max ammo or other ballistic tips, it is. But when I use it for squirrel hunting I'm pretty particular about shot placement, and I use FMJ ammo and go for head shots only. Plus I have to make sure I have a good shot with them against a tree or on the ground, since I don't want a FMJ round to be going through and hitting something else.

But I kill squirrels regularly waaaayyyyy outside my comfort zone with the .22 Ruger I usually carry. I can get a head shot at 100 yards pretty easily with the .17 HMR.

Well I am going to show my ignorance here. I thought the .17 WAS a centerfire round.

You should let me borrow it/ try it out.

They make both Skunk the hmr is rim fire and the hornet is center fire.

Oh, thanks guys.

So what is a good 17hmr for less than $400?

Gundog, this one is pretty dang good. Only $300 at Bass Pro, so probably cheaper elsewhere.

Based upon what I have read and the ammo expense I would probably go with 22mag over the 17. You can shoot a bit heaver bullet and I consider both rounds to only be 100 Yard tools.

I haven't seen 22 mag for months

Ooof....all they have at my cabelas is 17 and 22 mag.

Although, two bricks I ordered from them in December 2012...came today!! Finally!

this is why I am thinking 17 the 22 mags are a little scarce around here as well but still not as bad as long rifle.

Any folks have a henry lever action 22lr?

I'm tempted...looks like it would be fun and be nice to be able to shoot a mix of 22. I wider about the quality though...

Rich, don't know first hand, but but from what I have read the Henry rifles are good quality rifles. Do your homework, check out the gun forums for henry rifles.

I just got a savage in .17 Winchester super mag. the ballistics on this round are really impressive. haven't got it to the field yet but cant wait

Seems like there are a lot of happy owners out there, but some comment on poor quality of parts. Part of my research...asking smart folk here! hah! Lazy man's research...

No, NOT lazy, INFORMATIVE!

Knowing where to go for the info!

I have an itch for that rifle, a glock 19 or what would be a better fit in my little collection a CZ 527 in 7.62x39...the 22 rifle would get the most use and the glock is just an itch for some reason...

If I was smart- I would put the $$ towards more ammo or training...but...I'm not smart and more toys wins!

Toys are always good. Besides you can always look at them even if you can't shoot them!

I have to believe that once capacity is restored in manufacturing ammo after more than years in the Middle East, the prices may come down to about twice what they once were.

Well you guys talked me into it I picked this up yesterday.

Cool! Let us know how it shoots for you!

It might be a while my range is under 3 to 4 ft of snow lol, but I will be sure to let you guys know.