I have been hearing good things about the Vortex Sparc and Sparc II. Red Dots they run 150 to 200. Supposedly fairly rugged and hold zero.

I have read a few realistic "torture" tests and they did far above what I would have expected.

I will probably pick one up for a pistol or carbine when I can afford it.

With the recent builds and Christmas coming up it will be a while.