Good point on being able to pick up any AR/M16 - I didn't even think about that. Looks like you're very proficient none-the-less. I'm kind of frustrated that I haven't heard back from DPMS yet - I shoud have an M4 upper here very soon - they said 6-8 weeks delivery time, and its been about that long. I'm going w/ a full stock setup for now, since thats what I have - but I may go collapsable later - then again, I may stick w/ the stronger full stock and sacrifice the extra 3-4 inches. How are the collapsable stocks as far as being "sturdy" when compared to the A2 style stocks?