I don't like them. I hate the term "Zero Tolerance" and the handles are way to fat to carry clipped in your pants and they are WAY to much money. I got my new custom for less than a new ZT folder. They do have a nice solid feel but there are way better knives for less money. If you really like that style just get a real Strider. The guy I just bought my incoming Spyderco Chinook and Emerson Commander
from has one for sale if I can't talk you out of it?