Sorry Vic - it would have to have a blade catch like the Yard Hook in order to be a Horn DogFather. No, the Devil DogFather LE fits better! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />