What is a EU 17 and could you post a pic?
I try to only buy users but it seems like I need one for each catagory like EDC
fixed and folder,chopper,boot knife,mora, reanactor knife,Neck knife(I have had my eye on the Buck Hartsook in S30V)daggers and fighters. Then there are multitools and flashlights. I even have a katana for zombie attack.

I just read a really cool book called "World war Z" by Max Brooks and it is awesome. If something like that happends us dogs will be some of the most valuable people in society. There are some great parts in the book about how all the lawyers and entertainment industry bigwigs were useless and ended up being assistants to the mechanics and plumbers with usefull skills. Choppers like the Dogfather were literaly worth more than gold.