Peter - I believe most of us feel more comfortable having a knife in the woods, and state of mind is important (not just for survival). It adds to the enjoyment of being outdoors, for the chopping, cutting, prying, etc. opportunities that arise. And many of us subscribe to the adage: "it's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it". Tom <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />