Bruce, I did kind of play the big tough do anything survival knife card for the DF CG.. Arguments of but this one is an LE with a zero edge so it will be amazingly sharp and outperform my CG fell on deaf ears! The other half was heard to mutter I should get on with sharpening the CG! (For the sake of balance I must say my wife loves my SS4 and tries to adopt it every time we go hiking so she does 'get' knives!) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />