you just take the picture nick... but when I was holding the fuzz stick sideways it wasn't enough for the camera to pick up, so thats why the last pic (from a different angle) is so clear.

noss- yeah that rao could stand up to just about anything.
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if this folder could do it, I think most can.
the linerlock failed a few times, but actually if you use the right technique, I don't think its all that hard on the knife... I actually batoned on the back of the blade, not the tip.
that helped alot.

vic- wow, I guess you do learn something everyday.
I really hate splitting with an axe, it seems more dangerous and takes more skill.