Welcome crucso,and even if you do find one of those two it won't end there, oh no you'll be wanting knife after knife after knife. It's an addiction ,but a good kind. You will start trying to rack up overtime at work to have knife money,you'll laugh at other brands (not Busse kin!)But to say that these knives are good is a radical understatement. So enjoy your stay and kiss your savings goodbye hahahahahaha! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />