the way I look at it is Dan will probably make an announcement, the only way for him to make everyone truely satisfied is to eithe offer a multiple release including something new AND the MPLE as promised or to offer something new without the MPLE. I think if the new release is only the MPLE people will be dissapointed. It is time for the S7, and hopefully there will be enough of them to go around <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" />