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If you guys are interested in pistol-caliber carbines like the SUB 2000, you might also check out Beretta's version, the CX4 Storm. Very similar in concept. It doesn't fold, but it does have a lot of other interesting features.

You are right. the Storm is the best 9mm carbine on the market, however, you pay for it... Its nearly double what the SUB2000 costs. Kel Tex has a warranty that is to be reckoned with too... BUt there is no ? that the Storm from Beretta is the ticket in the 9mm carbine realm.

The Beretta Storm is a nice little carbine. BUT -

It doesn't pack down at all, and is half again as heavy as the Sub-2000. The whole point of the small folding carbine design is to have an easily transportable extension to a pistol. If I'm going to carry a full-size carbine (especially for the weight and price of the Beretta), why not just carry my AR-15?

For me, the Sub fits into a particular niche and price point that the other carbines don't.