I'm just guessing but I bet there is going to be several batches go out of the yard on the cg models. I would say if you didn't get your order down in October- I bet it is after Christmas before you see anything. With a knife this nice and popular ( great price too) - they had to have had MANY orders and then another BUNCH come in after Renee called " last call" .The hard part is the waiting- the really great part is we KNOW they will take care of us and we get to see what we are getting !! A " win- win" deal all around. PLUS- maybe they will put up the new release and we will do it again ? Sounds like fun to me. Thanks SY crew for all the hard work on a great knife ! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />