Don't give up, Ordawg. I was late to the party for the S6LE but happened to attend Blade West a couple years ago where Troy (360 Joules?) had a leftover from a show a couple years prior. My credit card made a sharp crack sound due to the small sonic boom it created when I whipped it from my wallet <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />