Thanks Jim- I knew the BDLE was not- but I thought the MPLE had been ( good info) The MODs are for sure a low run and tough to score. I am glad I came along after new business plan was in effect <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />. On the other hand kind of fun tracking steel down but can get expensive I suppose. Maybe we will see these offered in the store in the near future, The BDLE-MPLE and muck would make a nice set. Just for grins- toss in an SS4-NICE SET <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />