Good thought northern1. In short, YES, i think Scrap Yard and Busse are the 2 toughest knife companies in the world. As for cpm 3v, i have never seen any test that match ones run on sr77 and infi. I would throw sr77 or infi up against ANY steel in the world in a knife and feel confident that they would stand up to whatever steel that was. It feels great to know that when I hold my beloved S6 and SOD, that i am holding 2 of the toughest knives in the world. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />