Unless you just break it in half like I did my Vest Pocket Bowie. Then send it to Mike. He is making me a new 9" bowie in 50-100B as a replacement for my 5" bowie in 1085. Seems fair to me! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Bark Rivers are tough, but it varies with the model. I broke the VP Bowie batoning. I finished the job with the Gameskeeper without a problem. They aren't Scrappers. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />