Thanks diceman. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> We are all just one big family. Hogs, Dogs, and Rats. I like them all. So I guess I am a sort of hybrid mix. As are many of us. (I shutter at the thought of what that might visually look like). <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> A HogRaDog! I remember when there was more of a divide between Rats and Hogs. Things seemed to have melded together in to one "bad a$$" line assortment of blades. It's all good! IMHO