Thank you KG it is a brute,and hopefully me and fast camo can have some carnage photos up here in a little bit for ya. The knife is still a little infinished though i need to rework the scales and open up the pomel a little. We havent really gone full carnage with them yet cuz we are still waiting on competitor#3,we would post ya some pics but theres no need cuz it looks almost exactly like fast camos and you would probably be waiting another three years to see it. Me and fast camo have allready been waiting about 6 months. I will talk to fast camo and get some carnage photos for ya K <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />