I am with you all the way Tolly...we have a small ball hammer with our black ops kit...a breaching bar and a specific "team" door ram...plus we have Hatton rounds for a 12Guage for door hinges...and even shaped charges if need be...so I have never understood the "prybar" aspect on carry knives but figured within the US it was a "done thing"... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

I also did'nt know your SWAT guys did Explosive MOE's ....over here this is passed over to the Military if it is needed...and as for the guy in the Busse post who said he used the knife to pry off material from a wall in preperation for an explosive MOE...well if it is that serious over here we have the Architect's drawings to look on before this sort of thing is done...cabling and piping and inner materials are all just as important as the outer skin material...

It must be different strokes for different folks...??? Oh...and I am a fan of the RMD and a larger handle for the Dumpster Mutt as well... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />