Shows how really dumb I am about snakes, I thought it was a Copperhead <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />! My wife and I see snakes all the time in Mingo National Wildlife Refuge, but don't really bother to find out what kind they are. We just usually keep on driving by (it's illegal to kill snakes in Missouri) or walk around them with a WIDE detour! As far as I am concerned, ALL (well ok, mostly) snakes are poisonous.