Great pants- I am expecting two very soon <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crossfingers.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />. A long wait but worth it for sure-atta boy Jeff <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />