Thanks Dan, also here's some pics of the dogfather going to work and gator hunting (tons of gators at work), at work there is no cameras and very limited places I can do anything but I will tell you this, your dogfather knife has physically been on and inside a space shuttle , I can't say much more about it or how I did it without getting fired, but I did manage it. I wish I could have got pictures, but way to risky and I know it's at face value but that's the best I can do with what I have to work with.