Thanks- I am just hoping they release on Moday as I will be outta here on another trip soon !! Early next year might be down your way playing in the canyons. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" /> These S5s are one nice knife IMO. Luck to all <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />