Yes- I can see that too- but still many of the grail knives are still quite high on the secondary market <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />. Look at the SS4- RMD- Chopweiler etc. And the newly released S5s do pretty darn well for just coming out <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />.I have noticed that once knives are used the value drops way down <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />. I do agree that guys need to watch their spending and only spend what you have- but - ya gotta have some fun along the way <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />-Thanks <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />