i have otterbox stuff , but not for my little packs like this , i like soft fabric theres give and leaves flexablity while packing it... also this clips to my belt... which the otterboxes i dont like in case i fall or have to crawl threw something....also over all its quieter too.

the kit did the job ... even made a shelter unfortunaly no pics of it. i have some ideas on how to change it so ill keep working on it...