if ya want your best bang for the buck go to grizzlytools.com and buy there knife grinder. Thats the one i will eventually step up to. Its about 420.00 with ship,its got plenty of horse and it saves ya having to buy a buffer and yea there are guys on here that have spent thousands of dollars on their grinders(i know one of them) and they are sweet machines,but you can do a good jog with something alot less expensive. Kalamazoos are pretty darn pricey too. IMO the griz is your best bang for the buck mick you would love the heck out of that machine