Good to hear from you Tyger...it's been a good while you have been away...if you are feeling the chill bad see if there are any Cat Tail plants by the side of the Lakes out there...I had a Sniping exercise in Canada and had the same issue...I stitched the sleeves and waist together on two Helly long sleeve vests and stuffed the down from the cat tail heads between the two...it is virtually like "down" when pulled apart and dried off...used the top for the evenings/sleeping and it worked like a charm. Did the same with two pair of light cammo gloves...best natural plant insulation you can find...and is really abundant round where you are...old tip from reading up on Rodgers Rangers back in the war with the French <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />