I don't consider the S5 an EDC either, JD. I agree it's a little too big for that. But my similarly-sized RatManDu feels much more secure in my hand than my Scrapper 5 does. And that's really important to me. So my RMD stays and my S5 goes. Hasta la vista, baby! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />