Looks like the Fiskars in a couple ( or 3) sizes in worth trying <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />. Tolly gave me some sharpening tips and also what to place in hollow handle.I ordered a couple of these and will pick up one or two of the more expensive at the Eugene Knife Show in April ( I think) . Really appreciate the input guys <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />. BTW- I also snagged an older Estwing so should be interesting <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />-Thanks <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />