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I've shipped internationally with the word "knife" clearly printed on the customs form.

I have searched in the past, and from the best I can tell it is NOT illegal to ship knives "within the US". Yet, I have had Postal workers TELL me they can't ship knives. They are "Technically" wrong. But, I believe (pretty sure) most any postal worker can "DENY" shipping ANY package or item if they are suspicious of it or if they "FEEL" it might be dangerous. They "seem" to have a little latitude in making "subjective" decisions about the possible dangers of a package.

However, shipping internationally is different. Some countries do not allow knives to be shipped into their country. Or at the very least, some countries will search a package if the description of the item or box looks suspicious.

Unfortunately, "KNIFE" is just one of those terms that makes the Sheeple all shaky. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/banghead.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbdn.gif" alt="" />


So, I NEVER mention words like:

knife,
blade,
cutlery,
sharp,
ANY word that implies "Cutting" or ability to cut,
terms like "Tactical",
or even sadly "Hunting" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />
and ANY similar term that "might" be a "Red Flag" to USPS - or a red flag to customs in other countries.

*** Edit to add: "SWORD", or other LONG knife terms are commonly viewed as even MORE dangerous in the minds of Sheeple. So, any issue they have with the word "knife" is commonly multiplied with words like "sword".

USPS is generally pretty easy to work with (regarding getting the package to its destination anyway) "Until" they become nervous about something - OR when you need some sort of "customer service" about a problem. They don't like to deal with or handle "Problems". And I have to add: don't mess with their "breaks" or quitin' time. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" /> - Going to the service/shipping window at 5-10 minutes "prior" to quitin' time seems to make some of them pretty annoyed. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

From what I have seen, MOST of the government workers are "Sheeple". And they seem to be Trained/taught to be "suspicious" of packages.

Sadly, the recent MUK incident is just PROOF that they probably deserve to be "suspicious" of knives. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/doh.gif" alt="" />

While maybe not directly related to this thread (I am not implying Magnum22 did ANYTHING wrong related to packaging - just referring to the recent POORLY packaged MUK incident), it SHOULD be acknowledged that a POORLY packaged knife can be VERY dangerous and hazerdous! So, proper packaging along with proper blade/tip protection and IS important - THAT was PRIME example of a knife in a box being a "Dangerous" and "Hazerdous" package.

Sorry, but whoever shipped that MUK like that was an IDIOT!!!


The term "Dangerous" and "Hazerdous" are gray area terms that the USPS seems to give latitude to their employees to make judgement calls on.

In other countries, there are certain types of knives that are illegal. Heck even in California and other such "SHEEPLE" driven states many types of knives are illegal.

So, for USPS workers, "knife" could just be "EASY" to extend into simple "backwards" logic:

"Some knives are illegal" / "This is a knife" / "It doesn't say what type of knife, USPS doesn't know what type of knife and further, a typical USPS employee probably doesn't know ALL of the various knife laws in different states and countries - just that they vary a lot" : Therefore, (from USPS employee perspective): any given "KNIFE" might be an "Illegal" knife. So, better to say can't ship it.

I am not in any way saying you should ship "Dangerous" or Hazerdous items or "falsify" info. But, consider using terms that are less prone to strike fear into the Sheeple - while still being descriptive "enough".



If filling out a Customs Form, I always use words / terms like:

"Camping Tool" - is what I typically call most knives on customs forms.

You could call it: "Camping Gear", "Hiking equipment", "Custom Hand Tool", "kitchen tool", or many similar terms that are at least semi-accurate, but don't raise red flags.


For the Waki, I would call it a "Garden Tool" or "Lawn equipment". Garden and Lawn are nice "peaceful" sounding words. Keeps the Sheeple's nerves soothed. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

If the Postal workers press on better description, for "Garden Tool" or "Lawn Equipment, you could add "Pruning Tool" if needed, but I have generally not been bothered by the postal workers when the see my semi-generic terms.
Although, "too" generic could likely raise flags.

My terms may not be very "specific", but at least the terms don't typically raise red flags and they can be accurate enough.

I don't think you can get very far trying to bang heads or "Prove" your point with USPS and many government workers for that matter. They are going to do what they do and don't tend to be very apologetic about it even if wrong.

From what I have seen, they generally have to be given pretty decent credit for getting tons of mail delivered reasonably fast. But, they don't seem to care too much about complaints.
Some USPS employees seem pretty decent. Others: If they were serving food and I just complained about something - even if a ligitimate complaint, I would be suspicious about what they did to my food as they were bringing it to me.

With USPS employees and most government employees, it seems better to just "work with" they system, try to not come off as suspicious or upset them, get your package shipped, and move on.

Pretend you are getting soup from the Soup Nazi.

I have always valued customer service and what is right. But, that doesn't seem to be the USPS mentallity. In the end, they have the upper hand in their world. You either work with them or find plan B. Personally, I have not had such great luck with UPS. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbdn.gif" alt="" />
Personally, I have probably shipped and received about 20 times more packages via USPS Priority over the last 10 years or so and the only issues I have had were due to one VERY poorly packaged knife - similar to the MUK incident. Which I felt was more the fault of the shipper and poor packaging than USPS. Every other package has been fine.
UPS has probably damaged 6-8 packages in the last 10 years, lost one and all this with only a FRACTION of the numbers of Priority packages. But, that is just my experience.

Personally, when shipping CONUS, I have become pretty fond of using the "automated" Priority postal systems available at post offices in my area.

Although, I don't know if you can use that if shipping internationally.


Just my two (or three) cents. Hope that is helpful.

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Last edited by KnifeGuy; 02/20/10 06:57 PM.