HA-HA- I actually do it with a hole punch <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />. If you don't have dem speed holes- you just cain't chop <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />. Try it on your Regulators Seth <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Lightning fast <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />