I jusy ordered a BATAC last night, urban gray, black handles. I liked the size, thickness, and price seemed decent too (for what it is, clearly not inexpensive). I sort of justified it to my wife, and she sort of went for it too! I have a couple other fixed blades, supposedly good, good steels, but even light use on a hike will leave them dull or with tiny chips. I realized there was stuff I was not using them for that a knife should be able to handle. When you look at the warranty and the quality, the SCYKW, SRKW, and Busse Knives all end up making a lot of sense. I ordered via the web, almost wish I had called.