I think that for factory prices...you get what you pay for on both. With the DF at secondary prices only, and the BWM at factory prices still, I think the BWM will go up in value, and is a better valued chopper. Yes, I think the BWM is also a better overall chopper too. It is longer and faster. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />